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  •  I'd imagine something like freelancers union, (1+ / 0-)
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    only your employer, such as they are, has to pay into the union fund for the cost of employing you.

    So lets say you have an $10000 benefit package that includes 2 weeks paid vacation, 5 sick days, full healthcare, and family leave time. You have that package with your union. The employer then pays you your salary and $10000 to the benefit package. The union can even set this is up so that there is no upfront cost by making the payments flow over time.

    Now, when you take a day off, the union pays your employer for the day. You take your two weeks, the union gives that back to your employer. You take your sick days, the union sends that back. So on and so forth.

    So lets say you get another job. You have a weeks vacation left. You carry that over to your new employer and the union reimburses your old employer for that week. Then they collect the money from the new employer.

    The goal here is to get everyone who works a basic set of benefits, individually tailored to suit that persons needs. Perhaps young people would rather have cash than vacations and older people would rather have more  sick days. You negotiate that with your union and it applies to you personally no matter where you work.

    •  Interesting idea, but isn't this almost socialism? (2+ / 0-)
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      If the union is the government, then it is socialism.  This is outsourced socialism.  Interesting idea for the twenty first century.  I think it could work, but if you are trying to get a job, the employer will see this "benefits package" as a reason not to hire you.  If he has two people that are equally qualified, one who belongs to this union, and another that doesn't, it isn't clear to me that the employer would want to hire the person with the "benefit" bundle around his neck.  The employer would need to see the savings from working with the "Benefit Union" rather than administering it himself.  I could see a definite benefit, but what happens if you want to go work for a company and they don't want to pay your benefit union?  If you don't take the job, that might be hard on you.  If everyone had the benefit union hanging around their neck, then no problem.  But if an employer needs to do administration for a handful of stupid employees, he's paying the cost of doing that benefit and he doesn't want to pay for it twice.  I like the concept, but the startup will be hard.  

      "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength", George Orwell, "1984" -7.63 -5.95

      by dangoch on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 01:51:45 PM PST

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      •  I went back and looked at your last diary. You (3+ / 0-)

        have already been thinking about this.

        I think one way or another, this kind of collectivism is what will have to happen if we are to experience real and lasting change.

        Poverty = politics.

        by Renee on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 03:24:15 PM PST

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      •  Well, yeah, you'd have to level the playing (0+ / 0-)

        field so that all employees had a third party benefits package and all employers had to handle employee benefits through the benefits package providers.

        Obama, Emanuel, Geithner, Summers, Holder, Breuer. With pragmatism stacked that deep is it any wonder that justice on Wall St., the 99% and the just Wall demise of supply-side economics had a chance? We were robbed, and not just by the banksters.

        by Words In Action on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 08:28:41 PM PST

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    •  This is similar (0+ / 0-)

      in some ways to the system used by some trade unions. My nephew is an ironworker, and their benefits are administered by the union. They work out of the union hall for whatever employer wants to hire them. The employer pays a comprehensive hourly wage, the union buys health insurance, administers the retirement fund, and so forth. The employer doesn't have to bother with any of it. Workers see a deduction on their pay stub for the cost of their benefits.

      "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

      by happy camper on Sun Mar 10, 2013 at 07:10:44 AM PDT

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