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    You might have gotten a little farther if your post wasn't dripping with disdain, and if the lifetime risk of a negligent discharge wasn't so high.  Unfortunately, that's not the case, which is why this bill will never see the light of day outside of a state that holds gun ownership in as much contempt as you do.

    When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

    by Patrick Costighan on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 06:26:46 AM PST

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      but why is it wrong to hold negligent, dangerously incompetent people in disdain?

      Seriously. If you can't clean a firearm without shooting yourself or someone else, why would we let you have one?

      I have handled a wide variety of firearms in my life, up to and including military weapons, and it is my opinion that it is impossible to shoot yourself while cleaning any weapon unless you are an idiot and doing something you shouldn't be.

      Why do you believe that a person who stores a firearm and ammunition in an oven should be allowed to retain possession of said firearm? Do YOU want this person handling a gun around you or your family?

      Do you think a person literally playing with a loaded gun who shoots someone, or even nearly shoots someone is a person who can be trusted with a lethal weapon? If they don't kill or wound someone the first time, do you want to give them a second chance?

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        If you're trying to impress me by citing an extreme case, you're failing miserably.  And that's why your proposal will never fly.  You need gun owners on board to get what you want, but you're not going to find many so long as you keep intentionally irritating them.

        When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

        by Patrick Costighan on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 12:29:32 PM PST

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        •  People "accidentally" shoot themselves (0+ / 0-)

          and others every day.

          The front page has had examples of it for eight weeks now, so I am hardly citing "extreme" circs.

          As to storing ammunition in the oven, I have read of this happening every couple of years most of my life. Mythbusters did an episode proving that ammunition can "cook off" in an oven, and that while loose ammo was unlikely to hurt you, bullets in a gun will discharge with lethal force.

          But, hey, let's assume it's rare.

          You know what is NOT rare? Hitting bullets with a hammer!

          Google lists 9.5 million links:

          But, hey, a lot of those could be duplicates, so go over to Youtube and check out:

          How To Fire Bullet With Pliers And A Hammer
          Man hits bullet with hammer
          bullet hit with hammer fail ouch
          Put a bullet in a piece of metal with a nail and i'll hit it with a hammer...
          The Bullet + Hammer!
          Smashing a Frangable Bullet with a hammer
          Blowin up a bullet with a hammer!! YA!

          Wait, what's this I stumbled across?

          Microwaving Bullets In HD Wide Screen
          WoodysGamertag's Microwave Insanity - Ammunition
          Microwaving a Bullet

          Yeah, these are the people we want handling firearms.

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            How many people put guns in ovens every single day?  There's not much we're going to agree on here, so I'll just say that I disagree with you and I hope your proposal never becomes law.

            When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

            by Patrick Costighan on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 02:33:51 PM PST

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