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  •  Totally unacceptable? Really? (2+ / 0-)
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    skohayes, commonmass

    Do you think the SF AIDS Foundation has a "bloated and redundant administration"?  Do you even know anything about the organization?  On what do you base this claim?  

    And since you seem to think the quoted salaries are too high for people who do things that benefit those with AIDS, can you tell me what would be an appropriate salary for that kind of work?  In other words, how valuable to you is the kind of work these people do?  

    Would you begrudge them their salaries if they were, say, marketing video games or snack food?  Because if not, then you're telling me a lot about what kinds of work you think deserve compensation and what kinds don't.  

    So please, let me know how much a person running one of America's largest AIDS service organizations can legitimately make.  I'll be interested to hear, since you obviously think that these folks, who spend their time trying to help people with a very serious disease, are "unacceptably" overcompensated.

    "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

    by FogCityJohn on Thu Mar 07, 2013 at 10:50:17 PM PST

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    •  My concern is that as much money as possible (2+ / 0-)
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      WakeUpNeo, FogCityJohn

      ends up helping the people it was donated to help, helping the people the grant was given to help.

      My mother, who is an RN, ran an AIDS housing and hospice nonprofit for several years. She never made six figures, and this was a large operation in a large city. A city larger than SF, I'll add. She never complained about her salary. She was too busy seeing that the money went where it was supposed to go.

      What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

      by commonmass on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 06:06:20 AM PST

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      •  I'm glad you mother is that selfless. (1+ / 0-)
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        I don't know when your mother held that job, I don't know whether the city in which she worked is as expensive as San Francisco, and I also don't know whether her ASO performed the same kinds of services that SFAF does.  If you check out their 990, the services are quite extensive.

        Whatever the answers to those questions are, the central issue remains.  How much selflessness should we demand of people who do this kind of work?  You don't say how much money your mother made, but who's to say she wasn't overpaid?  Why shouldn't she have sacrificed more of her salary so that more of the money could have gone "where it was supposed to go"?  If she was paid, say, $60,000 per year, surely she could have gotten by on $40,000.  After all, lots of people in America make do with a good bit less than that.  

        I point this out because I think it's a pretty significant disconnect.  Liberals all seem to agree that work like this is important and valuable.  Yet many of us also seem to think that the compensation of people who do it should be as low as we can possibly make it.  (Many have the same expectation of public employees.)  So in essence, we think people doing some of the most valuable work should be willing to do it for rock-bottom wages.  If that's the case, can we really say we find this work valuable?

        "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

        by FogCityJohn on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 12:21:05 PM PST

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        •  Your point is well taken. (1+ / 0-)
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          Perhaps it is because while I make good money for what I do, I don't make that much and I'm OK with that. Of course, I'm in ministry--which I believe should also be well compensated, fairly compensated--but my selflessness threshold may be greater than that of some others as is often the case with people who do what I do. It's just in our makeup, not better or worse than anyone else.

          What is truth? -- Pontius Pilate

          by commonmass on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 02:00:50 PM PST

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