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  •  In fact knowing your veto will be overridden (7+ / 0-)

    would create a badge of honor when LATER you are proven correct.

    For the same reasons, he should have vetoed repeal of Glass Steagall and the Commodities Trading Modernization Act.

    The Republicans would've overridden his veto, and would then own ALL THE BLAME for subsequent disasters.

    I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson

    by bobdevo on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 08:27:57 AM PST

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    •  "The Republicans would've overridden his veto..." (3+ / 0-)
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      .....and used that symbolic veto as a wedge to help Bob Dole win the 1996 election.    That was the real reason for DOMA.

      That's the reality of politics - signing crappy and harmful bills in the middle of night to avoid a political issue.   The other reality is that no one was directly impacted by that bill until 8 years after it was signed, when MA achieved marriage equality.

      And there's a larger reality too: bigoted laws like DOMA have actually moved the legal issues further and faster than anyone could have imagined.    Without DOMA & the mini-DOMAs and the naked anti-gay animus they exhibit in their legislative records (and of course Romer and Lawrence), the Baker v Nelson precedent would still be relevant for years to come and the issue of heightened scrutiny wouldn't be before the court today.    The civil rights victory which is about to happen won't be just about marriage equality, but about all laws which discriminate based on sexual orientation.

      •  Yeah, Right, Bob Dole ROTFL. You gotta do (2+ / 0-)
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        better than that when it comes to Bogeymen.

        Jesus . . . Bob Dole . . . I'm still laughin' . . .

        I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. ~Thomas Jefferson

        by bobdevo on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 11:20:20 AM PST

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        •  Have you ever looked at the electoral results (1+ / 0-)
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          for 1996?    Many bible-belt states which are usually reliable red states went for Clinton - including Louisiana, Kentucky, Missouri, West Virginia, Arkansas and Tennessee.    A few of those states were only won by a point or two.  DOMA was very much an issue in those states and Clinton campaigned in the south partly on that issue.

          Arkansas and maybe Tennessee can be excused for going Dem that year, but note that Gore lost Tennessee the next time.

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