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  •  Id be more convinced (2+ / 0-)
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    VClib, Neuroptimalian

    if you used more capital letters.  

    Your argument could be used to decry any donation to charity.  People pay their taxes based on the universal system as it applies to them.  They are obligated to pay the minimum required under current law and not a 1¢ more.

    The SCOTUS has ruled several times that no one has the right or ability to dictate or dispute how that money is spent in aggregate.

    But BEYOND that money, any money you want to give to anything from your local ASPCA to your Church to your nearby elementary school, you get to put any strings and conditions on your "donation" that you see fit.

    You can even make donations directly to the Department of Defense if you feel compelled to help equip our soldiers.

    This is all perfectly legal.  The White House opened this door.  Now they should take the money and run the tours.

    Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

    by Wisper on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 09:08:32 AM PST

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    •  again with the assumption that we are (2+ / 0-)
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      already collecting enough taxes

      we're not. we're running a deficit and need to collect more in taxes to make up the shortfall

      "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

      by eXtina on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 09:10:24 AM PST

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      •  Than raise taxes (2+ / 0-)
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        Until then, people pay the minimum.  When its raised, people will then pay the new minimum.

        These are different issues.  I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

        And its not a given that we need to collect more.  We collect a lot already.  We could spend it more wisely.  Maybe not give away billions to in oil subsidies.  Not hand out obscene amounts under the Farm bill.  Maybe rein in duplication functions across parallel agencies.  And, oh I don't know... buy less new toys used to kill people around the world.  There's a thought.

        If we did these things, maybe we could fund our priorities without putting more tax burdens on the American people.

        Now if we, as a nation, really decide that we WANT all this spending.  That its all required and must never be reduced.  Then yeah, we need to raise taxes.

        Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

        by Wisper on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 09:15:16 AM PST

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        •  well that's what the bill in the Senate to prevent (2+ / 0-)
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          the sequester proposed, but was filibustered by Republicans

          .  Maybe not give away billions to in oil subsidies.  Not hand out obscene amounts under the Farm bill.
          S. 338. I did a diary on it. Look it up. Well, the jackasses in the Senate filibustered it, so now we get White House tours cut back because they decided oil and ag subsidies were more important

          "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

          by eXtina on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 09:18:26 AM PST

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          •  You are right (3+ / 0-)
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            coffeetalk, VClib, Neuroptimalian

            and now someone is offering to pay (beyond their tax obligation) to fund tours as a public service.

            So is your argument just one of principle?  Congress didnt pass the right bills so people need to be taught a lesson and if some private citizen steps in to offer to pay for things to try and lessen the pain they are thereby minimizing the PAINFUL LESSON that America needs to understand the issue?

            If so, you are essentially arguing that people (who are in no position of power or authority) NEED to suffer and feel the pain of Congress' actions.  No mitigating allowed.

            So if someone offers to pay for Veteran's programs or to keep a local school open, are you going to make the same argument?  NO!  No paying to just keep the veteran rehab clinic in YOUR neighborhood open because Congress is dysfunctional.  Your community's veterans MUST SUFFER until everyone learns!

            I think I am mistating your argument.. or at least I sure as hell HOPE I am .. but I confess.. I do not understand your point.

            Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

            by Wisper on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 09:47:07 AM PST

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            •  no one's doing that (2+ / 0-)
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              So if someone offers to pay for Veteran's programs or to keep a local school open
              mr. strawman

              "I'm sculpting now. Landscapes mostly." ~ Yogi Bear

              by eXtina on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 09:49:18 AM PST

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              •  I was asking IF you saw this as the same (2+ / 0-)
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                By your logic, I dont understand how you wouldnt respond with the same "Sorry.. thats not how this works Douchebag" argument.

                Veteran's benefits are the cost of running the country... etc etc

                I was just trying to understand how you are differentiating between this guy offering to pay extra money out of his pocket to fund an existing public program (albeit a small one) and other similar things.

                You are clearly against this, as your diary states.  I guess I just dont get it.

                Красота спасет мир --F. Dostoevsky

                by Wisper on Fri Mar 08, 2013 at 09:52:57 AM PST

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