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  •  Interesting.... (5+ / 0-)

    ....from a British perspective, Airbus seems to be a lumbering Franco-German behemoth which has successfully sounded the death knell of British commercial airliner production.

    British participation in the project has been complex and its withdrawal messy. Hawker Siddeley was one of the original partners, with a 20% share, but its successor company BAE Systems was reduced to subcontactor status before a FORCED sale of its share to the parent of Airbus, EADS.

    Meanwhile, the BAE plant outside Chester is still making the wings for every Airbus aircraft, and the aeroengineers there have proved to be adept at producing very efficient wings. They are collected in an Airbus A300 Beluga and flown to France for final assembly.

    Britain 'missed the 'bus' this time...and there will be no more British commercial airliners.

    •  I'm reading an interesting book (4+ / 0-)

      Empire of the Clouds: When Britain's Aircraft Ruled the World, by James Hamilton.

      It deals with the British aircraft industry from the end of WWII through today.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Sat Mar 09, 2013 at 03:59:27 PM PST

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      •  Yes...it is a very fine explanation... (3+ / 0-)
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        Powell, KenBee, Simplify

        ...of how a country with an excellent chance to dominate in several areas of aerospace, managed to set its feet in concrete then throw itself in the English Channel.

        The Miles M.52 might have broken the sound barrier before any other aircraft - until civil servants stepped in; forced mergers of light/business aircraft companies with vastly different philosophies (Miles and Auster) leading to the death of both; the decree that MANNED fighter aircraft would ALL be cancelled (the disasterous 1953 Defence Review); the refusal to back the Vickers transatlantic project; the appalling cancellation of the TSR2....I could go on and on and on.....I saw some of it from the inside...and I was appalled!

        'Per Ardua Ad Astra'

        by shortfinals on Sat Mar 09, 2013 at 04:22:05 PM PST

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    •  The rule of thumb is (6+ / 0-)

      you need to sell 500 copies of an airliner to break even on the development cost.

      I think that was always a tough hurdle for the British companies because there was only so much demand in the domestic market.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Sat Mar 09, 2013 at 04:00:57 PM PST

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