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  •  Excellent point: (0+ / 0-)
    What causes folks to cling to fundamentalist faiths may be the same insecurity that leads them to march like sheep to the GOP drum.
    Whether by nature or nurture a "fearful" personality in my experience tends to cling to certainties, something provided by fundamentalist faiths and politics. Combine that personality given by nature with nurture that encourages fear of the "outside" and "other" and you have the kind of adult I occasionally run in to here in the suburbs of D.C. making statements such as "Aren't you afraid to go in there?" and whose children have never been to the zoo or museums. I've heard of parents very fearful of letting their kids go on school field trips to the monuments and such. In personal experience these people often have advanced, but narrow educations, were never exposed to anything but a monoculture as kids and tend to be more religious than others I meet.

    The maps are interesting in a blunt instrument generated look. They would be more interesting with other factors added and at county levels. For example, throw in education—though now we have highly "degreed" people whose education is from fundamentalist degree mills to contend with.

    I would expect more detailed maps to support TP/GOP political tilt as a symptom of a number of these factors, including religion, rather than a cause.

    The only foes that threaten America are the enemies at home, and those are ignorance, superstition, and incompetence. [Elbert Hubbard]

    by pelagicray on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 07:46:48 AM PDT

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    •  I agree and expand (0+ / 0-)

      I grew up about 23 miles from Downtown Detroit. Many of the students had never been south of 20 mile road, and couldn't imagine going to the art museum, the Opera House, the Fox Theater or even to a festival on the riverfront. They lived their entire lives in "the country" and in fear of "the other" who live in Detroit.

      •  Same here. (0+ / 0-)

        I was born and raised in Livonia.  But my parents loved all of the things in Detroit you mentioned, in addition to the Heidelberg Project and John King Books.  So I went downtown a lot as a kid.  Learned to not be that afraid of it.

        I remember during my first year at MSU, I went to see the White Stripes at the Masonic Temple.  When I got back to school the next day and told my friends (one of whom was from Saline, the other from the western side of the state) about it, they were both shocked that I would've gone to Detroit at night.  Why would I do that?

        I gave a pretty simple answer: I like the White Stripes, and wanted to see the show.  I thought nothing of it.

        To this day, I'm still not afraid to go down there.

        •  Used to take the bus (1+ / 0-)
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          from 23 and Jefferson downtown to Hudsons, then lunch at Sanders--when I was about 15! Loved it.

          •  Hudson's was way before my time, unfortunately, (0+ / 0-)

            though I WAS there when they imploded it.  I was ten or eleven when that happened.

            My only experience with Sanders as a location rather than just a brand was the Sanders location they used to have at the Livonia Mall when I was a kid.  I have fond memories of it.

            Even now, there's more to the city than many outsiders realize.

            •  Those women with the white gloves... (0+ / 0-)

              ...who pushed the buttons on the elevator for you :)

              There was NOTHING you couldn't buy at Hudsons--that you really ought to have in the 1960s.

              I went to my first anti-war rally in downtown Detroit, my first civil rights seminar...Detroit is still a great community. When M&M did that ad two years ago and Hit Mile Marker 45 on I-75 I didn't know whether to cheer or cry.

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