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  •  Is a former DNC chairman really that horrible? (1+ / 0-)
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    Swingnut since 2009, 22, Male, Democrat, CA-49 (home) CA-12 (college)

    by Ryan Dack on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 09:11:34 AM PDT

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    •  No, but (6+ / 0-)
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      jj32, OGGoldy, nimh, Gpack3, jncca, gabjoh

      this particular DNC chairman is pretty bad.

      •  This race (3+ / 0-)
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        is very winnable for Democrats. It's shocking that Terry is not getting a primary challenge. Am I wrong to think any credible Democrat would beat him in a primary? How is there not a mayor, state legislator, or business person choppin at the bit?

        •  Terry is stronger than you think (6+ / 0-)

          He has his warts, the GOP will exploit them as best they can, and the race is a tossup, but for all that, Terry has worked the state hard to help his party locally and statewide and has some attributes to help him win.  He can raise more money than God, there are plenty of business types who think he'd make a decent Governor, he's comfortable on the stump, he's never caught without something to say, and he's expected to run a technically proficient campaign which by itself makes him a million times better than Creigh Deeds.

          Yes TMac has a resume and biography that can be used against him, but it's not as easy to attack him as one might think.  Tim Kaine was DNC Chair and the GOP couldn't really use anything effectively against him.  TMac's biggest vulnerabilities are simply a lack of any public service record, and some business deals that can put him on his heels.  Those things aren't nothing, but they're not close to fatal.

          45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

          by DCCyclone on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 10:44:45 AM PDT

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          •  Re: TMac's biggest vulnerabilities (2+ / 0-)
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            What I remember him most for was the endless amount of total bullshit he spouted throughout the Clinton primary campaign of '08. Please don't get me wrong: I don't mind anyone having supported Clinton over Obama, they were both good candidates and there were very good reasons to support either. But there was no need for McAuliffe to make such a clown of himself by throwing himself with such vigor into a kind of impersonation of that Iraqi information minister, Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf.

            His statements just became so over-the-top, in the second half of the campaign - so incredibly transparently BS - that I can't imagine it actually helped the Clinton campaign, which I imagine was the intention. I mean, his job was to talk up Hillary's candidacy, no problem with that. But he was so over the top, it just made the campaign look ridiculous, and it definitely left me with little respect for him.

            Not that VA voters will particularly care, I suppose ... but I doubt it means much good for his own campaigning skills.

            •  He was exactly the same at the DNC (1+ / 0-)
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              He called the Florida gubernatorial race for the late Bill McBride on election eve in 2002. Jeb won by 13 points. He always comes across as a cheesy cheerleader.

              "What do you mean "conspiracy"? Does that mean it's someone's imaginings and that the actual polls hovered right around the result?" - petral

              by conspiracy on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 12:31:03 PM PDT

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              •  aka party hack (0+ / 0-)

                ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

                by James Allen on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 06:22:24 PM PDT

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                •  Nothing you guys cited hurts him even slightly (3+ / 0-)
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                  Nothing in nimh's and conspiracy's comments matters even a trivial amount to any Virginia voters this November.  No one cares at all what he said in the past as a Hillary surrogate or as DNC Chair.  One thing that's relieving is that he never said anything inflammatory or otherwise controversial as DNC Chair...there really isn't anything you can use in a TV ad.

                  TMac's biggest vulnerabilities are as I said above, and of those his business dealings are the bigger issue.  That he never served in any elected or appointed office isn't fatal because Mark Warner was in the exact same position in 2001.  But TMac has some potential Romney-Lite issues where some capital investments of his might've been wasted, others might otherwise look a little shady, and more recently he had a business venture that located out-of-state instead of in Virginia for some reason I can't recall, but it was in the news and caused a small brouhaha that I expect the GOP to exploit further.  On the older stuff, here is a good WaPo piece from 2009:  http://articles.washingtonpost.com/...

                  The stuff in that WaPo piece I'm guessing will become the foundation of GOP attacks against him.

                  45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

                  by DCCyclone on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 08:15:44 PM PDT

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                  •  not much compared to his opponent (0+ / 0-)

                    ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

                    by James Allen on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 09:11:51 PM PDT

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                    •  Not to you and me, but don't assume... (0+ / 0-)

                      ...that's true for nonpartisan or soft partisan voters.

                      They don't think like you and me.

                      45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

                      by DCCyclone on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 06:30:19 AM PDT

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                  •  Well, sure, (0+ / 0-)

                    Like I already wrote myself, it's not that VA voters will particularly care about his Hillary-era antics. What it does make me wonder about is whether he might not make a fool of himself in similar ways during his own campaign, and that is something that would have an impact.

      •  Agreed (0+ / 0-)

        Tim Kaine did just fine, for instance.

    •  Well... (9+ / 0-)

      McAuliffe was involved with the least savory aspects of the Clinton era, like sucking up to Wall Street. He also ran the Democratic Party during its lowest modern ebb, though admittedly he did not set party policy.

      My basic opinion is, whatever. If he wins, he'll serve four years before the inevitable, abortive presidential campaign. That's four years that Ken Cuccinelli doesn't hold power.

      •  He is the Mitt Romney of Virginia (1+ / 0-)
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        One thing about his business record that stands out to me is the car company he started in Mississippi.  Yes, Democrats, it was a green car company.  But when confronted about it he said Mississippi, along with Alabama and South Carolina were the best places to start a business because they have "the most aggressive efforts to bring manufacturing in."  Lol.  I'm not kidding.  I can't blame the guy for wanting to save money, personally.  But if you're running for Governor of Virginia it might be nice if you could start your car company in Virginia.

        Plus, he lives in McLean a.k.a. home to everyone who is destroying America.  It's a lovely suburb but there's nowhere else in Virginia that is further removed politically, economically, or socially from the rest of the commonwealth, or has more lobbyists per square mile.

        Don't get me wrong, I support T-Mac, and I've posted in the past on DKE about what a wingnut Cooch is.  But I think it would be hypocritical for us not to point out T-Mac's issues after we've trashed Romney for a whole year....

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