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  •  Taj may have sucked balls (3+ / 0-)
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    But the DCCC could have easily run ads for that race and won it.

    It really did not matter that Taj was not serious, because Bentivolio is a clinically insane Santa impersonating student abusing reindeer farmer.

    Most often, you can't beat someone with noone... that's certainly true. However, in this case, you can beat this particular someone with an unserious candidate.

    23 Burkean Post Modern Gay Democrat; NM-2 (Raised), TX-20 (B.A. & M.A. in Political Science), TX-17 (Home); 08/12 PVIs

    by wwmiv on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 09:11:49 AM PDT

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    •  I don't think so. The DCCC polled it and... (0+ / 0-)

      ...found it unwinnable with Taj.

      It's a Republican district.  Center-right exurban/rural voters aren't inclined to vote for just "any" Democrat, even when the Republican is undeniably crazy.

      45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

      by DCCyclone on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 09:15:45 AM PDT

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      •  There's a difference between ideologically crazy (1+ / 0-)
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        Which Republicans will support against any Democrat (such as Bachmann) and mentally unstable ill type crazy, which if hay were made they would not support.

        23 Burkean Post Modern Gay Democrat; NM-2 (Raised), TX-20 (B.A. & M.A. in Political Science), TX-17 (Home); 08/12 PVIs

        by wwmiv on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 09:26:45 AM PDT

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      •  Taj still came pretty close to winning (5+ / 0-)

        If he had received air support and maybe had some DCCC boots on the ground, I think he probably would have won. But I think the DCCC was sufficiently annoyed with Taj not taking the race seriously that they decided to focus elsewhere, considering the seat would be lost in 2014 anyway and there was no way for their investment to guarantee Taj wouldn't goof off and lose anyway.

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        by SaoMagnifico on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 10:44:04 AM PDT

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        •  Hindsight (0+ / 0-)

          It may have worked better to try to get someone like Dave Curson to run.  The timeline wasn't right though and Curson made it clear he had no desire to continue to run for the office.

          People forget that Taj was a registered Republican at one point and had no natural ties to organized labor or any constituency that may be crucial in that district.

          Curson may not have won that special election if two other candidates weren't on the ballot, so this is all speculation on my point.  Curson was a UAW man as well.  

    •  No, they couldn't have. (0+ / 0-)

      Bentivolio is a nutjob, but this district is so red that barring an amazing candidate, no Democrat would've won, with or without the DCCC.

      And frankly, we don't have the bench in this district for that.

      •  Gary Peters could have won (3+ / 0-)
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        and should have run here seeing as 33%, the plurality of his old district, wound up here.

        His running in the 14th, Jim Costa's running in CA-16 instead of CA-21, and Joe Baca in CA-35 instead of CA-31 all cost us those seats in much the same way that Tom Rooney running in FL-17 instead of the 18th (allowing West to run there) cost the GOP a seat. The only one where this isn't a very strong case is Steve Rothman/Bill Pascrell running in NJ-05, but given how well funded they were, how far right Scott Garrett is, and how Obama still got 48.5% here despite not really overperforming I think one of them could have and probably would have won.

        •  I'm hesitant to blame Peters (2+ / 0-)
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          For not running against McCotter. Because just like in New Jersey, that is exactly the outcome Republicans were hoping for: Eliminate a Dem district, and watch two Congressmen cannibalize each other.

          We shouldn't damn Peters for wanting to run in a district he thought he would win. Lack of political courage? Sure. But blame at his feet? I don't think so.

          25, Practical Progressive Democrat (-9.38, -8.51), DKE Gay Caucus Majority Leader, IN-02; Swingnut. Defeat Wacky Jackie for 2014!

          by HoosierD42 on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 01:15:55 PM PDT

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          •  Oh Im certainly not damning Peters for not running (1+ / 0-)
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            though I absolutely am pissed that he and the others on the list chose to run in the seats they did, but I can totally understand and even sympathize on a personal level with why they chose so.

            For Peters, had he run in the 11th last year, it wouldn't have set him up nearly as well for a statewide run since he'd have to have run as a moderate last year and would be viewed with skepticism in a Democratic primary.

            People like Jim Costa are the ones who deserve outrage. He was safe in the 21st with Obama winning it by 12 points and would have had the exact same voting record.

            •  Oh yes, completely agree there. (1+ / 0-)
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              Stephen Wolf

              Costa and Baca were both craven with their choices. Rothman and Peters were more self-preservationist.

              25, Practical Progressive Democrat (-9.38, -8.51), DKE Gay Caucus Majority Leader, IN-02; Swingnut. Defeat Wacky Jackie for 2014!

              by HoosierD42 on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 08:25:51 PM PDT

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