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    noway2, FrankRose

    Much more efficient?  Repeating firearms have been around for a century and more and haven't changed much.  Since the M1911 was introduced, our every day lives have been permeated by regular air travel, mass transit, the automobile, intermodal freight, and telecommunications.  You can move billions of dollars around the world in under a second.  You can place a call to anyone anywhere from anywhere with a disposable phone.  

    Today's criminals aren't more efficient because of the firepower they carry, they're more efficient because of damn near everything else we enjoy in modern life.

    When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

    by Patrick Costighan on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 06:14:55 PM PDT

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    •  Nice try (1+ / 0-)
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      tytalus

      Get back to me when someone shoots up a kindergarten using intermodal freight or mass transit.

      I suppose with enough effort you could re-route the subway tracks into the classroom but that sounds rather labor intensive.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 06:26:20 PM PDT

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        No, they just smuggle tons of drugs in and tons of guns out of the country on our buses, ships, trains, and planes.  They take advantage of every convenience to fuel violence in our streets, our schools and our homes.  Or does it only count when victims are white, middle to upper class residents of a good neighborhood?  Must be, since that's what's finally spurred the newly outraged to action.

        When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

        by Patrick Costighan on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 06:33:35 PM PDT

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        •  My sole point (1+ / 0-)
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          is that modern firearms are highly effective killing tools.

          They make it easy to kill large numbers, at range, with minimal effort with the added benefit of being easily portable.

          If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

          by Major Kong on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 06:42:49 PM PDT

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            KVoimakas, FrankRose

            And my sole point is that modern firearms are older than you or me, and older than my dead grandparents in fact.  

            I'll grant you that firearms are highly effective killing tools.  That's why they exist.  But you're a century too late if you're trying to but the genie back in that bottle.  

            When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

            by Patrick Costighan on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 06:46:38 PM PDT

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            •  We've had very strict regulations (1+ / 0-)
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              on fully automatic weapons since 1934 and nobody's shot up a bank with a Thompson or a BAR in as long as anyone can remember.

              Fully automatics have been around almost as long as semi automatics and we've had no trouble controlling them.

              If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

              by Major Kong on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 06:53:44 PM PDT

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                KVoimakas, FrankRose

                However, we haven't been controlling semiautomatics.  Or revolvers.  And now it's a century later.  These guns aren't going anywhere, and Americans won't tolerate trying to "dry up the supply" as it is.  You need a new plan.  Fortunately, I've got one for you.

                When God gives you lemons, you find a new god.

                by Patrick Costighan on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 07:02:09 PM PDT

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