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  •  A few seconds of hot water won't do it. Since (0+ / 0-)

    you can't use bleach you need to either spend half an hour doing a thorough hand washing or dunk it in something like CaviCide or Sporox both of which are pretty expensive (CaviCide is $10 for 24 ounces, Sporox is $50 for a gallon and both need to be used full strength and not diluted).  Remember, you are trying to disinfect the bags, not just remove a little visible dirt.

    You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

    by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 06:17:32 PM PDT

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    •  Why are you thinking of disinfecting? (7+ / 0-)

      There are 3 components to getting sick;

      1) How many germs get on or into the body at a specific location (mouth, lungs, other orifice, skin, wound)

      2) How virulent the strain is. One of the problems overuse of antibiotics and other practices create.

      3) Susceptibility of the person. Immune function can be compromised by the over obsession with cleaning.

      Study was done years ago on use of the Communion cups - before AIDS and superbugs, and why more disease was not spread. Turned out the cloth wiping that was done at the time was sufficient to reduce the number of germs.

      The physical rubbing of hands and running water to thoroughly rinse every nook and cranny, as opposed to a hand cleaning gel, is essential to good hygiene if they are soiled. Healthcare workers are supposed to wash after they have used hand gel 5 times.

      Since you can't use bleach
      Why not? Detergent or laundry soap work fine. A small amount of bleach in a basin of rinse water would be better. You could also use rubbing alcohol although it is better to get rid of any solid dirt. Vinegar works on mold, should be used to pretreat, then wash.

      Intelligent cleaning and good health practices will prevent most infections. Over cleaning as you describe also increases exposure to harmful chemicals.

      "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

      by Ginny in CO on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 07:59:08 PM PDT

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      •  You can't use bleach because unless the bag (0+ / 0-)

        in question is white it will mess it up pretty bad.  You could use that oxy clean stuff (or generic) though.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 09:41:48 PM PDT

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        •  Depends on the bag. Most of mine are (0+ / 0-)

          covered with a film, the others don't hold up very well. The bleach in the rinse water would spread the effect, if it really matters.

          "People, even more than things, have to be restored, renewed, revived, reclaimed and redeemed; never throw out anyone. " Audrey Hepburn "A Beautiful Woman"

          by Ginny in CO on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 10:09:52 PM PDT

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    •  A shopping bag does not need any more (2+ / 0-)
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      thorough washing than the kitchen towels.

      This better be good. Because it is not going away.

      by DerAmi on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 05:57:52 AM PDT

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