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  •  clearly the cops should have pulled their (2+ / 0-)
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    FG, thestructureguy

    phasers, set them to stun and stopped the man

    oh wait those don't exist

    I'm sorry the man is dead but it's not the officers fault.

    In the time that I have been given,
    I am what I am

    by duhban on Mon Mar 11, 2013 at 07:18:48 PM PDT

    •  I don't think we can know "it's not the officer's (2+ / 0-)
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      Noddy, CuriousBoston

      fault" as firmly as you state.

      But that's just my opinion...that we can't know/conclude that without being premature.

      •  ultimately I believe in innocent till proven other (0+ / 0-)

        wise no matter who it is and the officers deserve that same benefit.

        Frankly even if you are right that doesn't make them guilty either. If it's too early to know it was not the officer's fault then it's also too early to know it was.

        I just wish people would get that.

        In the time that I have been given,
        I am what I am

        by duhban on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 01:55:28 AM PDT

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        •  don't think you follow me (0+ / 0-)

          I dont' think the officers are guilty. And I can't be "right" (as in 'even if you are right") because I am not holding an opinion of guilt or innocence. Because, as I said "we can't know/conclude...premature".

          I was commenting on your flat out statement that they were NOT guilty, as I read it. It sounded as if you concluded (case closed) that they are innocent, while I say we can't know that yet.

           You communicated definitively when we can't know. I see now you Meant "innocent until proven guilty".

          I think I believe it also...except inside myself I think "they may be guilty or may be innocent" but I would treat them and believe they should be treated, including in discussions like  here, as if they were innocent. In the back of my mind I hold that they might not be and we won't know for sure until we see more.

        •  I just read your "I wish people would get that" (0+ / 0-)

          see, I do
          you read me wrong. Irony.
          maybe you read some other "people" wrong too.

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