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    •  Of course (22+ / 0-)

      I thought it was an interesting and somewhat wistful twist to the story.


      by otto on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 07:16:05 AM PDT

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    •  Post mortem DNA (40+ / 0-)

      I'm glad that I had my mother's DNA tested and have managed to connect with a couple of distant cousins as a result.

      When my mother died back in 2011, I called Family Tree DNA to see if it was still possible to sample and test her DNA.

      They normally offer a guarantee and if the first sample sent in to them doesn't work, you can send in a second sample and try again at no additional cost. But, ftDNA explained that in my mother's case everything would depend on a single sample and they couldn't guarantee the results. Nevertheless, I decided to go ahead and purchase the test which was around $800 at the time for a full set of tests.

      My mother died on Saturday morning and according to Family Tree DNA it was important to get the DNA sample asap. So they explained that rather than wait for them to mail a kit, I could do it using sterile cotton swabs.

      So I went to the pharmacy and picked up these cotton swabs that are normally used for wound cleaning, some regular business size envelopes, and headed to the funeral home.

      As an aside, these swabs are wooden, about six inches long with cotton on one end and they come two to a pack for about fifty cents.

      The mortician had been through this before and they were happy to help me. He said that this comes up about twice a year for them.

      So on Monday the mortician obtained the samples using the cotton swabs I provided from the inside of mother's mouth more or less like you would normally do by swabbing the inside of the cheeks.

      He took a total of six samples and placed them in separate envelopes which I then sent to Family Tree DNA via FedEx and about six weeks later I had the final results. And, a few months after that I connected with a distant cousin living in Alaska and another living in Florida.

      All ftDNA could tell us was that we were related and we had to use to find the actual family connection. My cousins had a lot of experience with family history research and while it wasn't easy they did find the family connection.

      By the way, in the event you ever decide to do this be aware that you will need to ship the samples in a bio-hazard bag and I think you may need to pay an additional handling charge. The FedEx drivers can obtain and supply what you need. In my case, the driver came to my door with a bio bag, I dropped the sample envelopes into the bag and the samples were in Texas the next morning.

      Post mortem DNA requires special handling, but Family Tree DNA knows what to do when they receive your samples. They don't even charge a special handling fee.

      Finally, the DNA samples are kept for several years and you can order additional tests at any time. So you don't necessarily need to do all the tests at one time the way I did.

      The only trouble with retirement is...I never get a day off!

      by Mr Robert on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 10:29:01 AM PDT

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      •  23 and me (9+ / 0-)

        23 and me is now doing the tests (and the disease stuff too) for $99. The price has really come down of late and I understand they want to have 1,000,000 people in their database by year's end. This will allow them to do a lot of neat data analytics looking for disease connections, and family connections.

        There's room at the top they're telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill

        by taonow on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 04:10:00 PM PDT

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        •  More features than anyone else? (2+ / 0-)
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          When I clicked on this link off the home page that's what I got.

          All i can see from reading the page is that the have "More features...blah, blah, blah". So what are the fucking features anyway? Do I have to fucking register or purchase a basic testing kit before they will tell me what this will eventually cost me? Well, fuck that!

          I tell you this is a scam operation, here's what you get when you click on the link to their Store which is next to nothing. All it lists is the initial testing for $99.

          Meanwhile, when you click on the corresponding link at ftDNA you get a detailed description of the various tests along with the prices. Check it out here.

          Bottom line?

          I know for certain what I got when my mother was tested, ftDNA made the whole process very transparent as compared to 23andMe which leaves me totally in the dark.

          So I'm getting ready to call 23andMe and I will compare what they are offering for $99 as compared to what I got when I had my mother's dna tested.

          Meanwhile, let me recommend that you check out any number of offers from Direct TV, Comcast, AT&T to find really great offers.

          I strongly suspect that the $99 offer from 23andMe is just for a basic test--ftDNA also offers a low price to get started with some very basic testing. But, if you want more than that then you will have to pay.

          The competition will no doubt bring the price down over time, but please don't come here pimping 23andMe without giving me anything more than a link to their home page which even on the second level down doesn't give me a clue as to what I will get for my money.

          Like I said, I plan on calling them and I will either post a comment in reply to your post or I will post a diary because I find these marketing practices abhorent.

          If this is just a come on I will certainly post a diary because I have a pretty good idea of what this costs as of today and $99 will get you little or nothing at this point.

          The only trouble with retirement is...I never get a day off!

          by Mr Robert on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 06:11:48 PM PDT

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          •  I'd like to call these guys (2+ / 0-)
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            Unfortunately, I can't even google my way to a phone number that will allow me to contact them.

            So I'm not impressed in any way shape or form. I can even google my way to a contact number for Amazon or Ebay. So what's up with these guys anyway?

            The best I could come up with was an email form which you can find here.

            Meanwhile, here's the link to the Contact page for ftDNA with the phone number at the bottom of the page.

            World Headquarters
            1445 North Loop West, Suite 820 Houston, Texas 77008, USA
            For Sales: (713) 868-1438
            Fax : (832) 201-7147

            The only trouble with retirement is...I never get a day off!

            by Mr Robert on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 06:24:36 PM PDT

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            •  Ok, I just sent them a msg via their form (0+ / 0-)

              requesting their phone number and letting them know that their web site is more than a little lacking.

              We'll see what happens.

              The only trouble with retirement is...I never get a day off!

              by Mr Robert on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 06:31:53 PM PDT

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              •  OMG, read the reviews on Amazon (0+ / 0-)

                Here are more negative than positive reviews on Amazon.

                * Don't waste your money
                * save your $$$
                * Waste of money; terrible "service"
                * Can't get a hold of a person. NOT helpful at all
                * 23and Me is not accurate
                * I think the wait is ridiculous
                * What a waste of time and money

                I'll quote this review because it confirms what I said about no way to contact them other than the web.

                I bought the kit. mailed in test kit BUT after mailing in test kit my email has been discontinued. Tried to email 23 and me but they never answer there customer service emails and have NO PHONE NUMBER to get a hold of them. This has been going on over 3 weeks now.

                The only trouble with retirement is...I never get a day off!

                by Mr Robert on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 06:55:32 PM PDT

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          •  Uhm (0+ / 0-)

            not sure what you are looking at.

            My brother a genetics prof signed up and is quite happy with what he has received and gotten access to ... and if he is, not sure how it could be a scam. Out of interest it was started by the wife of Sergei Brin (of Google - not exactly scammers and rather good at data usage.)

            There's room at the top they're telling you still But first you must learn how to smile as you kill If you want to be like the folks on the hill

            by taonow on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 02:49:34 PM PDT

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        •  Thank you sooo much! (0+ / 0-)

          I did not know this was affordable.
          I am going to do it for my Dad's 83rd Bday.
          It has been quite hard for me to track his family.
          My mom is gone but I am going to do this for myself also.

          Republicans piss on you and tell you it's raining, Democrats hand you an umbrella!

          by Nica24 on Wed Mar 13, 2013 at 02:36:58 PM PDT

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