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  •  Next ten years? (0+ / 0-)

    We don't need your kind of optimisim here...

    The road to Hell is paved with pragmatism.

    by TheOrchid on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 03:12:41 PM PDT

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    •  I didn't draw the gerrymandered maps (2+ / 0-)
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      tell me how we win 20 some seats more than we did last election on those maps? We don't need bullshit optimism here either. The we'll get back to healthcare later because it's not good enough now shit that left us with no healthcare reform for decades is far more dangerous than me looking at the maps and predicting that this is as good as it gets till Jan 2023.

      You Hate Cuts 2 Medicare? Do You Love Obamacare? It added $1 trillion to Medicaid.

      by CornSyrupAwareness on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 03:25:24 PM PDT

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      •  Correction it's 17 seats but (1+ / 0-)
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        then there's this from Nate Silver

        This year, there were only 11 House seats that Democrats lost by five or fewer percentage points. Thus, even if they had performed five points better across the board, they would still have come up six seats short of controlling the chamber.
        Believing we win in 2016 involves those same maps and likely requires a Dem candidate more popular than Obama and/or a Republican less popular than Mitt Romney. 2018, same maps add off year election problems, 2020 we can retake state houses and change the maps for 2022 election, and that's likely because also a Presidential year, but for electing the House of Representatives in 2020 we're still using the maps that left us in the above blockquoted situation of being 17 seats short with only 11 districts within 5 points. 2022 first election with new maps, early Jan 2023 when that Congress takes power. Maybe you're more optimistic than I am, but I don't see why.

        You Hate Cuts 2 Medicare? Do You Love Obamacare? It added $1 trillion to Medicaid.

        by CornSyrupAwareness on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 03:45:30 PM PDT

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