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  •  Methane hydrate is an energy source with (3+ / 0-)
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    Yoshimi, Brooklyn Jim, Don midwest

    huge amounts of uncertainty, not only in terms of production but how it would be used. I wouldn't start panicking yet.

    Governments care only as much as their citizens force them to care. Nothing changes unless we change -- George Monbiot.

    by Nulwee on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 10:20:28 AM PDT

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    •  Methane power plants are already (1+ / 0-)
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      popular in Europe and there is no reason why we shouldn't capture methane from our waste (landfills, waste water, and animal waste) and use it for fuel.

      I think it can be a cleaner option than any of the other options we are pursuing.  

      •  Great distinction. (8+ / 0-)

        Methane capture (which is great and makes sense) involves capturing methane that has already been generated regardless, and burning it for energy.  If the methane were NOT captured, it would be released to the atmosphere, where it is even a worse greenhouse case than CO2. Converting it to CO2 via combustion actually results in a net decrease in greenhouse effect. This is a far cry from releasing NEW methane from the ocean floor just for combustion.  The latter results in a net increase in greenhouse gas (not to mention fugitive emissions).

        Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room!

        by bigtimecynic on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 11:22:15 AM PDT

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    •  Energy source? It is a pollutant (1+ / 0-)
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      Cliss

      It will boil out of the oceans as they warm.  There will be no capturing it

      Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

      by Mindful Nature on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 11:48:10 AM PDT

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    •  I stand corrected below (0+ / 0-)

      Still, the escaping methane is a major problem

      Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

      by Mindful Nature on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 11:52:44 AM PDT

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