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  •  He'd be great (1+ / 0-)
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    And I would drop everything to campaign for him if he'd accept me.  But Hillary might be our better bet to win, and I think that winning a third Democratic Presidential term is probably essential for this country to have any hope of longer term survival.

    Might I suggest that we wait until 2014 is over to make the decision?  We will need many fingers in the wind to judge this.  If we must go with Hillary in the top seat, I would push for Brown in the VP slot.  He is definitely one of the best if not THE best the Democrats have to offer.
     

    •  I agree, and sadly I think we'd have to wait until (0+ / 0-)

      2014 in any event because if John Kasich gets reelected as he's modestly favored to at the moment (though that could change), he would appoint a Republican to the rest of Brown's term. So it's definitely a tradeoff to putting Brown on the ticket, but I think if he were president it's worth losing one senate seat over (assuming it doesn't put us in the minority) but that's certainly debatable too. The map in 2016 is very favorable to us with the right candidate leading the ticket such as Clinton or Brown.

      •  No, he's not "modestly favored to." (0+ / 0-)

        At this point, polls are inconclusive and evidence on the ground says he's modestly favored NOT to. He's unable to stop generating polarizing policies, and his proposal to expand the sales tax is so unpopular it may not pass the lege.

        And once again, Clinton is NOT the right candidate. Her casual popularity would plummet if she were to run and she would be far from a shoo-in, no matter what rose-colored fantasies were may have now. But she's the past, and she's not going to deliver the net step for us. Even suggesting her as a strong candidate shows we're lacking in imagination, forward-thinking, and the drive to push toward a more progressive future.

        I would have a very hard time supporting CLinton much. I didn't support her in 2008 at all, even though I am her perfect demographic (older white professional woman) for reasons that as far as I know still exist. Has she ever repudiated Mark Penn? Has she ever acknowledged the ineptitude and chaos of her campaign?

        Jon Husted is a dick.

        by anastasia p on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 05:05:29 PM PDT

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        •  what are you talking about? (1+ / 0-)
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          20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
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          Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
          UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

          by jncca on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 05:12:34 PM PDT

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        •  Agree with you on Mark Penn (0+ / 0-)

          but polling has shown Kasich's approval rating improving by leaps and bounds over 2011 and early 2012 when he was toxic.

          For example, PPP's final poll of Ohio in 2012, which overestimated Obama by 2 and was of more favorable presidential turnout found Kasich at 45/40 and leading generic Dem 44/43. Obviously not stellar, but that's still slightly greater than a 50/50 shot at winning. Their prior poll found him at 44/40 but leading generic D 46/41 and even Strickland by 45/42. I'm not saying he's a shoe-in by any means, just that if I had to choose a winner at this point it would be Kasich.

          Hopefully we get a strong candidate like Fitzgerald, Ryan, or Cordray to run and we're able to pull out a narrow win, but the guy has sadly recovered significantly from when he was losing a rematch to Strickland by 25 points in polling.

          •  shoo-in (1+ / 0-)
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            nitpick.

            20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
            politicohen.com
            Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
            UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

            by jncca on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 05:44:12 PM PDT

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          •  Yes, his approval WAS up (0+ / 0-)

            It will probably go down in the wake of his budget. One good poll doesn't spell disaster and make Kasich golden. I predict that one good poll is going to make him arrogant and complacent because that's his style. He's a self-destructor. And his reelect numbers were awful in the same poll. He's wilting against a "generic Democrat"? Not good. All of our potential candidates are far from generic. They'd all be great foils.

            FitzGerald is in; he announced his exploratory committee yesterday. And for those who wail, "He has no name recognition," this is why it's good he's so early. He has already been traveling around the state introducing himself to key players in the county parties. That will pay off.

            We haven't heard much from Ryan or Sutton, and Cordray has made no moves to leave D.C. But again, any one of them could make a strong case against Kasich.

            Jon Husted is a dick.

            by anastasia p on Tue Mar 12, 2013 at 08:49:56 PM PDT

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    •  Wait till we hear Hillary on policy (2+ / 0-)
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      zett, wu ming

      I'm not voting for more of the austerity agenda and if she's going to run as Margaret Thatcher, tough on defense and paying for it with the safety net, I can't support her.

      I want a commitment on Social Security and Medicare now that it is totally unclear how far the party is willing to go to make the elderly pay for the War Department.

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