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  •  Virtually ever person over there electing (0+ / 0-)

    the pope was in the same boat.

    The poster boy for this was Archbishop Emeritus of Los Angeles Roger M. Mahony who, when asked if and why he should be eligible to got elect the pope blew off the inquiry by pointing out that if this type of thing was a disqualification, there'd be damn few people available for the holy conclave.

    •  Yes, which would be problematic for (2+ / 0-)
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      Roadbed Guy, corvo

      the Catholic Church, but maybe a harbinger of what's to come.

      There are many people who feel it would not only constitute "disqualification," but grievous transgression.  In Europe, for example, there are many empty pews.  There is vibrancy in many parts of Africa and South America, but interestingly, Bergoglio is of European ancestry.  

      The diarist called JPII's role in administrative coverup a "lie."  there is persuasive evidence to the contrary.

      •  If one just goes to the relevant (2+ / 0-)
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        wikipedia entry it is overwhelmingly obvious that the 100,000s of kids who were abused constitute a global problem (although in the developing world this is still mostly swept under the rug) that has been covered up (to whatever extent possible) at the highest levels (and at every level, in fact).

        It will be interesting to see

        1) if this * will * be acknowledged/brought out of the shadows in South American and Africa under the new guy

        and, if so

        2) whether the vibrancy of the church will remain in those areas.

        •  Agree. Your observation may already (1+ / 0-)
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          be shifting the ground in Argentina, which is far more socially liberal in its secular law than this Italian-Argentinian spiritual figure is.

          And even before the first news accounts of the sex abuse cover-ups began, Catholic pews in Europe began to empty.  The Church is not felt to be inclusive of women or diverse populations of any sort.  

          Not a good blueprint for vibrancy.  Very good points.

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