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  •  I've heard a lot about firing Mike Tate recently (5+ / 0-)

    The Wisconsin progressive blog FDLFVR has been very critical of the state Democratic organization in Wisconsin since Graeme Zielinski went on a unhinged Twitter rant and compared Scott Walker to serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.

    Polls don't vote, statistics don't vote, history doesn't vote, yard signs don't vote...PEOPLE VOTE!!!

    by DownstateDemocrat on Thu Mar 14, 2013 at 09:09:28 PM PDT

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    •  Now, now (9+ / 0-)

      Zielinski compared Walker's legal defense to Dahmer's, not Walker to Dahmer.

      Having said that, his tweeting meant that the media was discussing Zielinski when they should have been discussing the unprecedented corruption in Walker's office and the continued existence of his legal defense fund.  Not that they would, but it was an unwise and unnecessary distraction.

      Fake candidates nominated by the GOP for the recalls: 6 out of 7. Fake signatures on the recall petitions: 4 out of 1,860,283.

      by GeoffT on Thu Mar 14, 2013 at 09:26:33 PM PDT

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    •  I like Graeme Zielinski (8+ / 0-)

      He's funny, usually right on the mark, and stingingly snarky.  

      He didn't compare Walker to Dahmer.  He tweeted that Walker spent more on his "legal defense" than Jeffrey Dahmer.  And, of course, Republicans have used unfair Dahmer comparisons for years with NO repercussions.

      I'd like to see stronger leadership in the Democratic Party, but I'm not a member so I don't get a say in that.

      I understand his twitter rant because we were all shocked and surprised that Walker and the rest got off and that all the records are sealed.

      There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

      by Puddytat on Thu Mar 14, 2013 at 10:07:16 PM PDT

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      •  I had mixed feelings about Zielinski (9+ / 0-)

        I liked him for reasons you described, but, at the same time, he came across as an unprofessional hack who was prone to making over-the-top remarks. Zielinski should have simply focused on the fact that Walker still has a criminal defense fund despite the fact that the John Doe probe, which was the reason for the criminal defense fund in the first place, was closed.

        Ruth Conniff explained the REAL reason why the Democratic Party of Wisconsin is very weak:

        Because the party, on the whole, is weak and disconnected from the grassroots energy that caused so much excitement so long ago in another dark, early spring.
        (emphasis mine)

        Graeme Zielinski's over-the-top remarks, quite frankly, were a minor deal compared to the underlying problem that faces one of the weakest state Democratic organizations in the country, which is the fact that the DPW is disconnected from the Democratic grassroots in Wisconsin.

        Polls don't vote, statistics don't vote, history doesn't vote, yard signs don't vote...PEOPLE VOTE!!!

        by DownstateDemocrat on Thu Mar 14, 2013 at 11:28:28 PM PDT

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        •  Definitely need a leadership change (9+ / 0-)

          And you're very correct that they ARE disconnected from the grassroots.   They don't even have a connection with the Overpass Light Brigade for crying out loud much less have any connection to the grassroots out there in the community.

          Speaking as an activist, the only time I hear from the Dems is when they push (and they push really hard) for donations or help with GOTV.  It's offensive to me that they wait until the last minute to do anything.

          Republicans aren't idle.  They're in constant contact with their base.  We, in the liberal and Democratic grassroots are just left on our own.

          There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

          by Puddytat on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 12:30:07 AM PDT

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          •  Here's a part of the problem (7+ / 0-)

            Oshkosh's Democratic Office at 480 N. Main Street is closed, while the Republican office a few blocks north in the old Sunlight Dairy Building is still open.

            I get regular E-mails from Tate et al., asking for money. I am a classical yellow dog Democrat, but I am disappointed.

          •  Sounds like an opportunity (3+ / 0-)
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            to colonize the hulk of the DPW.
            The infrastructure of the party is worth more than the functional value. It sounds like a spent force, that is, the people still in position are chairwarming. That's weak.
            The Grassroots in WI have several shoots growing (separately?). If they become strong enough, if they organize broadly enough, they can infiltrate the D's at the bottom and work up through the ranks rather quickly.
            And y'all have ample issues to organize around.
            If the Grassroots took over the Democratic Party and shifted Wisconsin's political scenery, THAT would stand as a model for other states' Dems.
            Even here in CT, where we have an all Democrat Congressional delegation and have been strongly Democratic for decades, there is a certain flaccidity that comes with long term rule, too many apparatchiks clog up the system. We need to colonize the entire Dem party with new people at the town and district levels so that when good candidates arise, we're there to promote them.
            (Bit of a sore point, I worked on Lamont's campaign and the state party dropped the ball, to an extent. During that same cycle there was a great potential candidate here in the 2nd district that could not gain any traction with the party functionaries because they were set on Joe Courtney, a clone of Joe Lie berman at the time. Fortunately, Courtney has turned out better than I expected, but that's not saying much.)

            If I ran this circus, things would be DIFFERENT!

            by CwV on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:31:35 AM PDT

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      •  I like him too (1+ / 0-)
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        I enjoyed his Tweets, and not just the political ones. Watching Zielinski's Tweets during Packers games was priceless. He'd throw out these obviously false yet hilarious Tweets about George Halas or Dick Butkus during Packers-Bears games, and had some real beauties during Packers-Vikings games too. Zielinski was a partisan, and not just as a Democrat. He's a die-hard, proud Wisconsin guy, and I'll definitely miss his input, political and otherwise.

        The Bush Family: 0 for 4 in Wisconsin

        by Korkenzieher on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:04:31 AM PDT

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