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  •  Lenin would accuse you of "bourgeois pedantry" (0+ / 0-)

    for assuming that the WCM could possibly promote justice or equality - Lenin's goal is to foist violent revolution, because Lenin is ripping off Nechaev and is nothing but a two-bit hypocrite.  Seriously, the whole letter sucks, even on the relatively low bar I'd set for something written by Lenin.  He argues for world peace through liquidation his enemies; he argues his former leftist allies aren't true revolutionaries while defending his alliances with French monarchists; he argues against imperialist armed intervention while (this is not in the letter) planning to push his own armed forces into Polish-Ukrainian territory in an attempt to overthrow their government.   His predictions about the future of his state were as pathetic as they were wrong.

    I'm also not sure if your title is ironic or not, given that Lenin uses that expression repeatedly in the letter to defend the (multiple, ugly) failures of his own government.  

    Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

    by pico on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:20:10 AM PDT

    •  Aww (0+ / 0-)

      Does regulated trade hurt your fe-fe's?

      Why are you attacking the writer?

      Seriously, the whole letter sucks
      DBAD

      "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

      by Horace Boothroyd III on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:41:20 AM PDT

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      •  Huh? (1+ / 0-)
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        I'm attacking Lenin, not the diarist.  And for all the reasons I listed.  If you want to address those reasons I'd be happy to respond.  Or you could just drop sarcastic non sequiturs.  Your choice.

        What my comment has to do with "regulated trade", I have no idea.

        Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

        by pico on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:49:05 AM PDT

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        •  Oh! My bad. (1+ / 0-)
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          I've always considered those writings to be something Stalin cooked up. Not only does it make Lenin look insane. It covers every contingency making every move Stalin made golden in the eyes of Lenin.

          Just my take.

          And yes Stalin would and could forge shit like that- Just for the Lulz in some cases.

          "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

          by Horace Boothroyd III on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 09:08:33 AM PDT

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          •  No worries. I think the letter was first published (1+ / 0-)
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            in 1918, so a little early for a Stalin forgery.  But just to make sure, I double-checked with some Russian sources and it appears legit? (Not that this would verify it completely, but the 1953 Soviet encyclopedia lists it as appearing in v. 28 of Lenin's collected works, which I don't have handy, but I can check next week at the library, along with old volumes of Pravda.)   Most of the online texts of the letter, even in translation, are drawn from the 1965 collected works edition.  Stalin no doubt reshaped a lot of Lenin's legacy, but I think this one, if it really did appear in English translation in 1918, might be legit.   Still, you've got me curious, so I'm going to see what I can track down.

            Unfortunately I can't find a free archive of Pravda online.  There's one that costs +$300, which is funny in an ironic way.

            Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

            by pico on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 09:31:15 AM PDT

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