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  •  Change or die (14+ / 0-)

    The Democratic party is irretrievably falling into the same cesspool of Petersonian austerity-mongering, Rubinite Wall Street-whoring and neocon endless-warmaking that the Republicans have long wallowed in.  The leader of the party is leading the dive into that cesspool, just as its last leader did.  Now even the "progressive" wing, as personified by Nancy Pelosi, is taking the dive as well.  

    The Democratic party has been doing its best to destroy its traditional New Deal brand for decades, and almost the last shred of that brand was its championship of Social Security and Medicare.  If it finally pisses those away, as the leadership is desperately trying to do, most casually interested voters will have even less reason to vote for Democrats.  They may not vote for Republicans, but they most definitely might not bother to show up and vote for Democrats.  We saw what happened in that context in 2010.  You're right to point out the dystopian consequences should it happen again.

    Democrats running in 2014 can still salvage their brand because of Paul Ryan and the Krayzee Kaucus in the Republican party, but it won't be easy.  They'll have to run against their own president and their own leadership.  That unlikely possibility would prove the most hopeful sign for the Democratic party, because it would signal a revival of its traditional wing.  One more collapse into the arms of the austerian leadership by the Progressive Caucus might kill off this possibility for good, though.

    If the Democratic party finally poisons its own well, the time will finally have arrived to discuss alternatives.  Labor, progressives, advocates for the poor and the elderly and the dispossessed -- all will have to find common cause in a new coalition to either oust the Democratic leadership or abandon the party.  We can't afford to follow our leaders anymore, not after chained-CPI.

    Citizens United defeated by citizens, united.

    by Dallasdoc on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:47:40 AM PDT

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    •  I agree with the premise (7+ / 0-)

      that the Democrats have an existential crisis on their hands now.

      Preserving the Social Safety net and trying to preserve the American middle class are the only real reasons to vote Democratic straight ticket. The Democrats seem hell bent on pissing both away in the name of an illusion.

      Any gains in any "Grand Bargain" will be temporary.

      The pain will be permanent. The rollbacks.

      They have gone from looking like occasional suckers and chumps, to openly embracing that they are just as big a part of the problem as any in DC.

      It will be very, very hard for non-beltway Democrats do undo the damage they will have done to their brand here. They cannot credibly claim they were conned. They can't credibly claim they couldn't possibly know what would happen post Chained CPI debate.

      Barack Obama has built up the Barack Obama brand. Very similarly to Bill Clinton, Obama didn't build up the Democratic Party during his time in office. He created his own legacy and brand.

      When Obama is gone, his brand is gone.

      But the albatross of Chained CPI will be left behind to hang around the necks of the party he leaves behind.

      He doesn't have to run again, they do.

      Which is why their actions are baffling. There is no upside to doing this for them. None. And it's so blatant that this is the case that even the most low-information voter can see it.

      The American Crossroads ads, and the Village role in giving the GOP the ability to frame themselves as Social Securities defenders that write themselves, and the blowback to follow, which will have dire implications for Obama going forward as President... couldn't be more apparent.

      I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

      by LeftHandedMan on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:01:44 AM PDT

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      •  Also (8+ / 0-)

        Nancy Pelosi has really made a huge mistake here. This is like spitting in the face of everyone who raised their voices when Heath Shuler pulled his little obnoxious Blue Dog/DLC grandstanding stunt to take her job after the House loss.

        I expect Harry Reid to be a weasel. He's my Senator and I know him well.

        There is no pragmatic explanation for such sheer stupidity. There is no upside. The downside, the risk, and the awful damage is all there staring all of us right in the face.

        I think we need, at a minimum, new Congressional Leadership in both the House and the Senate.

        You can't fix stupid.

        I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

        by LeftHandedMan on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:06:14 AM PDT

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      •  Only one out for Democrats (10+ / 0-)

        Campaign against Obama's austerity agenda.  If they don't rebel, they'll be out on their asses.  A populist agenda is out there --  the CPC just put out their annual too-sane-to-be-acknowledged budget -- but unless the party embraces it as a party and rejects Obama's Great White Whale obsession, they won't get the credit they don't deserve.

        If they fail and Republicans get back in charge, the time to kill off the Democratic party and go back to something like the militancy of the early labor movement will finally have arrived.  With the militarization of the police we've seen, that'll be ugly.

        Citizens United defeated by citizens, united.

        by Dallasdoc on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:06:22 AM PDT

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      •  Well, you know, a safety net assumes (2+ / 0-)
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        that the performer is doing something reckless and making a spectacle of himself.
        Human beings, having been brought to life through no action or fault of their own, are entitled to sustenance. Period. The notion that life is a right, but living has to be earned needs to be rejected.
        Those who are here have obligations to the past and to the next generation. That's the essence of social organisms. Individuals can claim to be independent and self-supporting, but, whatever the motivation for that claim, the claim is false. It simply doesn't comport with reality. Humans are born weak and unable to support themselves and, unless somebody provides support they perish. So, in spite of themselves, they incur an obligation. They owe a debt. That some can't see that is a problem, but the way to deal with it is not to propound a myth.
        Some creatures are independent, but humans aren't one of them.

        We organize governments to deliver services and prevent abuse.

        by hannah on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:48:57 AM PDT

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    •  A large part of the American electorate (10+ / 0-)

      will be dispossessed.  Actually, we are already, but most of us do not realize it yet.  However, if the chained CPI or any other form of negative change to our social safety net occurs, it will require Democratic support.  And we are already seeing that from our President and Congressional leaders.  I am very close to giving up on the Democratic Party for good.  I cannot continue to vote for people who support Republican ideas.

      If the Democratic party finally poisons its own well, the time will finally have arrived to discuss alternatives.  Labor, progressives, advocates for the poor and the elderly and the dispossessed -- all will have to find common cause in a new coalition to either oust the Democratic leadership or abandon the party.  We can't afford to follow our leaders anymore, not after chained-CPI.

      "Growing up is for those who don't have the guts not to. Grow wise, grow loving, grow compassionate, but why grow up?" - Fiddlegirl

      by gulfgal98 on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:03:15 AM PDT

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