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  •  Nice post-- (6+ / 0-)

    What's unclear at this point -- I don't think anyone knows the answer -- is whether the Democratic Party would follow the President over the cliff if it comes to that.

    For every Bernie Sanders, there's a Mark Warner.
    For every Keith Ellison, there's a Nancy Pelosi.
    For every liberal, there's a this, whatever it is.

    •  I think it's likely (7+ / 0-)

      that a "Grand Bargain" would fracture the party after it passed, not before. This is why I'm so freaked out by this stupidity. It's going to be a huge disaster on so many levels for Democrats.

      That is why I think we have to be a big part of the reason it can't happen. That it is politically impossible to pursue.

      I think this is the kind of diaster where, at the point where it looks like a done deal, there will be a split.

      Some liberals will foolishly go with the 'we have to do this because the President says so' and they will be destroyed for doing it.

      The rest will recoil, a kind of Liberal pullback, and rueful private conversations about schadenfreude and here online will start happening too early. Before the fight is really over.

      I am from the Elizabeth Warren and Darcy Burner wing of the Democratic Party

      by LeftHandedMan on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 07:31:21 AM PDT

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    •  dm, respectfully, I think it's clear that they are (2+ / 0-)
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      willing to follow this Administration over the cliff.

      According to MSNBC talking heads, Rep Peter Welch from Vermont, is the epitomy of a "liberal," no?

      I saw him agree to vote for raising the age for Medicare eligibility, if the President backs it.  He was a guest on C-Span's Washington Journal.


      "If a dog won’t come to you after having looked you in the face, you should go home and examine your conscience.” -- Woodrow Wilson


      by musiccitymollie on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 10:35:47 AM PDT

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