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  •  I would agree w. diarist and would add (2+ / 0-)
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    (and clarify) that the Repubs ran on the medicare cut strongly in 2012 just as much, if not more so, than 2010. The fact that they too supported them seems irrelevant to the typical low-information voter.
    And you know what? It worked. It completely defused the Ryan Medicare voucher issue of 2011. Talk about an own-goal (although the reduction was smart policy). Neverhteless the Dems, for some reason chose not to run as full-on defenders of Medicare and it cost them.
    If you doubt this, think that Ryan himself bragged that "we won the senior vote in 2012". well this is true, and I was very tempted to call seniors the most politically stupid generation I have ever seen, blinded by their racism towards Obama and there irrational fear of change. But that is too facile; it was a messagin skirmish and we lost that won; we just won the bigger one.

    We should be expanding Medicare, not chipping away at it. Maybe one day we will realize that it is smart Policy. Sure workd for George W Bush, who has the distinction as the last President who presided over a Medicare expansion

    An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head. -- Eric Hoffer

    by MichiganChet on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 08:05:34 AM PDT

    •  Seniors aren't stupid just paying close attention (4+ / 0-)

      The Democratic Party's commitment to Social Security and Medicare has really become very conditional in the last few years.  As you say, it would have been so easy for Obama to run a campaign strongly defending Social Security and Medicare but he didn't.  And people notice when their issues are absent from the discussion.

      Sure, when Biden went to the senior center he spoke off the cuff and from the heart.  But I never believed he was speaking on message.  What is the message for seniors from the Democratic Party?  

      The message I've gotten is that we're an annoying artifact out of step with a new demographic strategy.

      •  Not while seniors vote the way they do (1+ / 0-)
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        But, again, that in my view is a messaging issue. So we all come to the same conclusion about how the Democratic party is letting a fabulous opportunity go to waste by not mounting a full frontal defense of Earned Benefit programs (I refuse to call them 'entitlements') equal to the ferocity with which gun nuts defend their AR-15s and high capacity magazines. I will say this about the gun fanatics: it is pretty clear where they stand, maybe we should take a lesson.
        In fact, my belief is that we should be expanding medicare, as I said and it would be not only good policy but it would be good politics as well.

        An empty head is not really empty; it is stuffed with rubbish. Hence the difficulty of forcing anything into an empty head. -- Eric Hoffer

        by MichiganChet on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 07:05:45 AM PDT

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    •  Dems own SS and Medicare (3+ / 0-)

      Voters expect them to defend those programs, not cut them.

      Voters also expect the GOP to try to dismantle them.

      To see both parties suddenly switch sides is incredibly confusing and frustrating for voters. While its not likely they'll trust the GOP to defend SS & Medicare, they're certainly not going to be happy with Dems cutting them.

      My brain hurts from trying to figure out the idiotic strategy our party is using in this mess.

      It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

      by Betty Pinson on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 11:57:51 AM PDT

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