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  •  But it's pointless to *have* such a Senator (0+ / 0-)

    Look at how our conservative Democratic senators have damaged us, and the country.  McCaskill, who took $100B out of the stimulus just for fun.  Baucus and Conrad, who gutted health care reform.  Manchin and Landrieu, who make sure our party stands for continued environmental carnage.  

    As for "we have statewide Democrats," we know that people in Republican states will vote Democratic for state offices, and vice versa.  Utah and Kentucky have their mirror images in NJ and, um, I'm sure there's another :)  That doesn't make them any more KY any more likely to consider a Democrat for Senate any more than NJ would consider a Republican, absent a big reorientation via a new kind of candidacy.

    You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

    by Rich in PA on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:43:40 PM PDT

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    •  Without McCaskill, Baucus, Manchin, and Landrieu (2+ / 0-)
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      we're in the minority.  I don't want you making our recruitment decisions.

      And Utah has no Democrats I'm aware of in state exec. offices.  In Kentucky all but one of the offices is filled with a Democrat.  They are not similar states.  And unlike New Jersey and Utah, 3 of the last 4 senate elections in Kentucky have been won with 53% of the vote or less.  It is a competitive state for moderate-conservative Democrats.

      Not liberals like Judd.

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:52:48 PM PDT

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      •  excuse me (1+ / 0-)
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        we'd have 51 senators, but I'm sure you'd purge Mark Pryor and others too.

        ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

        by James Allen on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 06:53:58 PM PDT

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      •  I think a liberal could win in Kentucky--if they (2+ / 0-)
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        tap into the right issues.

        A liberal candidate in Kentucky would need to come to the voters with a plan to bring jobs and new industry to the state--especially in eastern Kentucky. Many people think that if you oppose Big Coal you'll lose the votes in the eastern counties. That is because I think people don't realize that the people in those counties only support the coal business because they see no other alternative for employment. They don't like the coal business, truthfully--they are resigned to it.  They also see the way coal has devastated the environment, up close and personal. They see the filthy, undrinkable water coming out of their wells, the babies born with birth defects in places like Letcher County, and the health problems that affect other people. Almost everybody in eastern Kentucky has a relative who has died in the mines in an accident, or a relative who has died of black lung. If a liberal could come to eastern Kentucky with a workable alternative to coal, I think he or she would sway more voters than you think.

        The whole state benefits from the tax revenue generated by the coal industry--and to tell the truth, a lot of people in eastern Kentucky kind of resent the fact that they help to generate a lot of money for the state, but at the same time, feel they see less benefit from that money than people in places like Lexington and Louisville do. A liberal candidate might tell the voters in eastern Kentucky that they would like to see more of the revenue they generate reinvested back into the region, instead of being sent off somewhere else.

        There are a good many people here who are conservative on social issues--but the "anti-poor people" rhetoric coming out of the GOP galls a lot of people here. There are a good many folks dependent upon public assistance. A liberal candidate would need to take their opponent to the woodshed on this issue.  

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