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  •  Racial attitudes..are quickly changing in the S.? (7+ / 0-)

    It's now 2013, which means they haven't quickly changed...if at all.

    Republicans...What a nice club...of liars, cheaters, adulterers, exaggerators, hypocrites and ignoramuses. Der Spiegel -6.62, -6.92

    by CanyonWren on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 10:22:20 PM PDT

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    •  Mostly the urban South -- and in part because a (10+ / 0-)

      whole bunch of educated Southerners and Yankees are settling there. Step outside the city borders and you're in the belly of the beast, from what I've seen. One wonders if Lincoln had lived to oversee Reconstruction if the old South might not have turned out to be as much of a historical anachronism as it has.

      Either way, writing's on the wall. Just have to wait 'em out, with any luck...

      "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

      by Kombema on Fri Mar 15, 2013 at 10:32:57 PM PDT

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      •  Right after finishing her Psychiatry residency, a (21+ / 0-)

        friend moved to a town 40 miles outside of Charlotte to satisfy a public health service obligation.  Most of her patients were court ordered into therapy for anger and violence issues.  Well the deep mind and soul probing wore the young doc down and she marked of the weeks and months until she could escape.

        After her last afternoon appointment on her last day at the rural clinic, she hopped into her already packed car and drove straight to Charlotte.  She has lived and practiced there for the last dozen years.  She says that racism and misogyny exists in many of her city patients too, but in the rural area she was in, it was a visceral all-encompasing hatred, with the added bonus of people feeling it was perfectly reasonable to use violence to express their hatred.

        Her opinion is that racism and misogyny cannot be easily fixed since most who hold such attitudes don't want to be fixed.  The only solution is to get to the children, and try to educate them, and the old haters  will have to die out.

        •  Yes, but the old haters (8+ / 0-)

          are often teaching their children what THEY want them to be taught, passing that hatred and ignorance on to yet another generation.

          "The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." -- Mark Twain

          by Brooke In Seattle on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 08:33:19 AM PDT

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          •  That's true, but as we see from the polling of (2+ / 0-)
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            young people, only some it is sticking. Just have to wait for the old bigots to die off, and socialize the kids who are not completely propagandized by the Jesus Camp white supremacist mentality.

            "Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob." -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

            by Kombema on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 09:33:02 AM PDT

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          •  Yes that is the frightening aspect of it, Brooke (2+ / 0-)
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            I so agree. My son thinks one of the answers is that the kids leave home shortly after high school for the military or college or a job out of state.. they can see people and ideas different from them.

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            by wishingwell on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 10:12:00 AM PDT

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          •  Of course the haters try to teach their progeny to (0+ / 0-)

            hate, just as the tolerant try to teach their kids to be tolerant.  

            I grew up in a union, democratic household, and while we rarely invited other kids to our church (only if their families were members too) I would get invited by other kids and their parents to fundy-style religious services and bible studies all of the time.  It would irritate my mom to no end!

            So yes, the conservative whacks will try to hold onto their own, and even recruit others, but as the last election shows, the younger generations are way more tolerant and open minded than their parents and grandparents.  I think this is what is behind the fundy homeschooling trend and attempts to take over local school boards.  

            On an individual level, we can make sure that we make time for the kids, teens, and young adults in our lives, to give those drowning in the hate of a wacko family that there is another point of view.  That is something we can all do.

      •  Yes transplants to the southern urban and suburban (1+ / 0-)
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        regions has been a positive thing  overall, depending on who the transplants are. I think it is has worsened things in places like AZ or when some of the older, conservative , more bigoted people move south.  

        But for the most part, the northern translants to the urban south like Atlanta has been a good thing. My sister says many of her friends are not natives of GA but from NJ, NY, PA . We saw that a lot especially 2o and 30 yrs ago..a ton of our friends and classmates moving south for jobs after the steel industry and mining industry and other jobs in PA went belly up.

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        by wishingwell on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 10:10:28 AM PDT

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