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  •  I had War of Northern Agression History (15+ / 0-)

    in 4th grade.  I kept the handouts for years - there was no approved texts, so we had these mimeographed sheets in a booklet.  I learned completely different battle names, reasons for war - the works.  I would show them to other teachers when we moved periodically, just to show them how far behind education could be.  

    When we moved from Germany (DoD school) to Alabama ("good" public school) the school called my parents to report their concern because I was friendly with black students in my class.  The teacher started paying the black kids not to talk to me and completely isolated me from all the kids to "teach me a lesson."

    It is inherent in southern white culture to see blacks as less than human.  Col CatLady will take in any stray cat off the street - but a black man on the lawn would be ventilated.  And he's a "soft" racist - we weren't raised to call people "nigger" or to look down on anyone but civilians.

    And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

    by Mortifyd on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 12:14:30 AM PDT

    •  what decade was this, Mortifyd? (2+ / 0-)
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      that you got targetted by a teacher for talking to the Black kids.

      •  1980s grade 4 - 6 then we moved again (14+ / 0-)

        But it continues today.  I'm a visible Jew in the south - so there are two kinds of people who smile at me in public places - fundaloons and blacks.  Fundaloons suggest I move to Israel at the earliest opportunity when not trying to convert me - black people treat me like a person - down here, I'm not white either.

        And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

        by Mortifyd on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 05:24:03 AM PDT

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        •  I admit that I've sometimes been glad that (0+ / 0-)

          I'm fair enough to "pass". Also experience a twinge of guilt with that thought.
          I remember a child first finding out about the Holocaust being glad for my fairness, relieved that my Jewishness wasn't "visible".
          I didn't experience any targetting due to my religion as a child but my town was about 1/4 Jewish and I live in the Northeast.
          I heard quite a bit thought when I was living in the UK in the mid 80s...in casual conversation even amongst people who didn't know eachother, showing how well accepted it seemed to be. This was amongst educated people.

          You are younger than I. I' m saddened that when I was in high school overt racism was so alive and well in parts of our country. Don't talk to the Black kids.
          In our high school we were about 15-20% Black. The Black kids kept to themselves except on sports teams. There were student-enforced "Black tables"in the dining room and White kids weren't allowed (by the other kids) to sit there. I tried to sit with my friends on the track team but they had to come join me because I couldn't join them (Black kids could sit anywhere)
          ah memories.

          •  I'm very fair actually (0+ / 0-)

            former blond, blue eyes.  But I wear a kippah always, I sometimes wear tzitzit, I have a beard.  I don't want to lose myself. I don't want to be mistaken for a hate filled redneck because the rest of my family are.

            I am a southerner.  I was born in the south, raised by southerners - but I was raised primarily in Europe and it impacted my world view dramatically.  My brother is 4 years younger than I am and completely a redneck boor and proud of it.  The times we lived abroad were not critical ones for him like they were for me.

            I didn't have a Jewish identity as a kid - family secret time! - but I remember seeing how they were treated (hence family secret time) - and I lived in the UK for a bit (boarding school) and absolutely the UK is just a horrific hotbed of antisemitism.

            I wasn't allowed to sit with anyone at lunch - I had an end of the long tables to myself, period.  NO one was allowed to sit with me in grade 4, so it was just automatic after that.  No one eats by That Kid.

            And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

            by Mortifyd on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 06:54:36 PM PDT

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    •  if anyone gives me the "War of Northern Agression" (3+ / 0-)
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      BS I reply with "are you referring to the War of Southern Insolence?". It's fun to get them going.

    •  Jesus P Christ on a cracker!! (1+ / 0-)
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      liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

      by RockyMtnLib on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 11:31:39 AM PDT

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      •  one of the worst postings of my life (2+ / 0-)
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        My education was severely impacted, socially I was completely destroyed and never tried to make friends after that - and that was one of the schools where beatings were permitted - they didn't even need to send home a slip to ask if they could beat your kid.

        My grade 4 teacher put me in remedial everything, despite my being in the gifted program and having come out of an experimental gifted SCHOOL in Germany.  That woman hated me.

        My grade 5 teacher was senile and forcibly retired at the end of our year.

        My grade 6 teacher read catalogs all day and had the class mock me when I was traumatised by the death of one of my friends in the gifted program who was at another school. (We met once a week) Literally had me stand in front of the class and led them in laughing and calling me a baby for crying over a friend.

        And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

        by Mortifyd on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 03:43:41 PM PDT

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        •  I know that's extremely painful (1+ / 0-)
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          so thank you for opening yourself up and sharing your story. I'm trying to organize my thoughts for a diary I want to write about bullying, which is a really touchy subject for me.

          liberal bias = failure to validate or sufficiently flatter the conservative narrative on any given subject

          by RockyMtnLib on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 04:26:45 PM PDT

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          •  eh, not so much painful as sad (1+ / 0-)
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            I just look at it and wonder if I had parents who gave a shit - what kind of education I might have had - what I could have done.

            Instead I'm in their spare bedroom at 43 watching Torchwood on my laptop and teaching myself Korean because I have lost the ability to function well enough to hold down a job and support myself - and waiting to see what kind of state services I can get in a republican state. HA.

            And we sail and we sail and we never see land, just the rum in the bottle and a pipe in my hand...

            by Mortifyd on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 06:57:22 PM PDT

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