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  •  Good post (0+ / 0-)

    but this chafed a bit:

    sometimes it's us, the white, liberal southern guys, who wind up with the largest cache of recognition for both blatant and not-so-blatant racism.
    Substitute "people of color" for "white, liberal southern guys" and this statement would ring a lot truer. I have trouble believing Tim Wise put it in this way.
    •  I think (4+ / 0-)

      that Grizzard meant that a white southern liberal who pays attention sees how much overt racism there is,  but also know the reality of the two faced bastards that never slip up in public and just how many of those people there are.  It is a far cry from being the object of that racism.

      •  This (14+ / 0-)

        of course, is what I meant.

        The conversation that takes place in "like" company would not take place in "mixed" company. And seasoned racists have learned how to code their messages.

        I once told my mentor, and a guy I consider my big brother (he's a black guy), that he helped me make it through the sea of racism in our hometown. He replied, "Man, I never thought it was that bad."

        My point was that white people show their real colors in like company, where they feel comfortable. I think we've moved far enough that being overtly racist and rude to an actual black person is considered out of bounds even in rural SC. But that doesn't mean there are any real social consequences associated with being a full-blown racist the minute the black guy leaves.

        Of course, that's a part of Southern culture, too. The idea that it's acceptable to say anything you want about a person as long as that person's not there to hear it.

        "I believe that, as long as there is plenty, poverty is evil." ~Bobby Kennedy

        by Grizzard on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 08:50:30 AM PDT

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        •  that last part (0+ / 0-)

          is true, regardless of race.

          My favorite always starts out, after someone has walked away,  'the nicest fella you would ever want to meet, but . . ."

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