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  •  I've Never Seen this Argument (11+ / 0-)
    Every time there's a conversation about this online, you get people who say that they don't know why people think that the South is racist, and that the North (including the Pacific Northwest and California) are much more racist now. It's usually someone who identifies himself as black saying that.
    I've never seen anyone Black here at Daily Kos or similar sites say that they don't know why people think that the aSout is racist and [non-Southern regions of the US] are "much more racist now."  

    All of us know the South is racist.  Whether from personal experiences or the experiences of our family and friends.

    What we have also said, however, repeatedly, is that the North, East and West are just as racist.  Usually this has to be pointed out whenever someone comes in South bashing (often, here) and trying to make it appear that racism is a southern problem instead of an American problem.  We have also said that, unlike the South, in the rest of the country there is a lot of "polite" racism, where white folks front when they are around people of color but when you get them all alone the truth comes out. And said, that if you go by how we're actually treated, some of us can understand what some of the old folks have said, which is at least in the south you know where you stand so it's easier to deal with it.

    In other words, you completely missed the nuance in what you read.   Happens a lot in discussions of racism, but I wanted to make sure you understood.

    To the extent that I've ever heard something close to the argument you said was made (i.e. other places are far worse) that argument has been made only by whites being defensive.  (As defensive as those not from the south are about their regions and their racism-free claims.)

    •  let us please underscore this: (4+ / 0-)
      ...and trying to make it appear that racism is a southern problem instead of an American problem
      This seems, always to be key.  People want to locate racism in one region and pass on the ownership in that way.

      If you want to truly address racism, that kind of region-bashing isn't going to work.  But it will help to make you feel superior.

      I suppose it depends upon your true goals.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:21:18 PM PDT

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    •  I've seen the argument that the North is worse (0+ / 0-)

      than the south now, before. But not that often.

      More often I see the argument that the North is equally as racist it's just more overt in the South. I think sometimes during those converstations so much data is given, ie examples, of Northern racism (trying to convince progressive Northern Whites that it's bad up here too) that people leave feeling that the Black person commenting is arguing that racism is worse in the North than in the South. The person may have expended more effort to illustrate Northern racism in the converstation.

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