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  •  Total BS (2+ / 0-)
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    You are equating 911 with WW2.  You are attempting to justify Bin Laden's actions.  The fact that anyone would uprate this crap is despicable.

    Looking through the bent backed tulips, To see how the other half lives, Looking through a glass onion - John Lennon and Paul McCartney

    by Hey338Too on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:29:02 PM PDT

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    •  I'm equating the intentional slaughter of (1+ / 1-)
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      civilians by the thousands with the intentional slaughter of civilians by the hundreds of thousands.

      I can see how that may be offensive to some, but for the inverse of your reasons.

      You are attempting to justify Bin Laden's actions.
      I'm condemning both Bin Laden and Truman's actions.  Like it or not, that's crystal clear to any independent observer.

      That fact that anyone would HR the simple truth because they don't like the way it makes them feel about their country shows how flawed the "community moderation" system is.

      income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

      by JesseCW on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:35:05 PM PDT

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      •  Your comment is total BS and HR'able. <NT> (2+ / 0-)
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        Looking through the bent backed tulips, To see how the other half lives, Looking through a glass onion - John Lennon and Paul McCartney

        by Hey338Too on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 01:38:58 PM PDT

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        •  Your arguments are purely emotional. Terrorism (2+ / 0-)
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          has a clearly defined meaning.

          income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

          by JesseCW on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 02:09:37 PM PDT

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          •  Seriously man, get a grip... (2+ / 0-)
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            ... does Pearl Harbor ring a bell?  That wasn't an act of terrorism it was an act of war - that has a pretty clearly defined meaning too.  So get out of here with the "purely emotional" BS, your interpretation of history is  delusional.

            Looking through the bent backed tulips, To see how the other half lives, Looking through a glass onion - John Lennon and Paul McCartney

            by Hey338Too on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 02:36:18 PM PDT

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            •  Pearl Harbor was an act of war. It was clearly (4+ / 0-)
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              targeted at military assets.

              The mass murders Truman ordered were targeted exclusively at civilians.  He chose intentionally not to target Japans armies in the field on the mainland, and not to target their remaining ships in harbor.

              Terrorism is "any act intended to cause death or serious bodily harm to civilians or non-combatants with the purpose of intimidating a population or compelling a government or an international organization to do or abstain from doing any act" according to the United Nations.

              Your argument is "It's not terrorism 'cause we're Mercans".

              income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

              by JesseCW on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 02:49:38 PM PDT

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              •  Again, bullshit (4+ / 0-)

                From Wikipedia

                During World War II, the 2nd General Army and Chugoku Regional Army were headquartered in Hiroshima, and the Army Marine Headquarters was located at Ujina port. The city also had large depots of military supplies, and was a key center for shipping.[13]
                The city of Nagasaki had been one of the largest sea ports in southern Japan and was of great wartime importance because of its wide-ranging industrial activity, including the production of ordnance, ships, military equipment, and other war materials. The four largest companies in the city were Mitsubishi Shipyards, Electrical Shipyards, Arms Plant, and Steel and Arms Works, which employed about 90% of the city's labor force, and accounted for 90% of the city's industry.

                Looking through the bent backed tulips, To see how the other half lives, Looking through a glass onion - John Lennon and Paul McCartney

                by Hey338Too on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 02:59:14 PM PDT

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                •  You're now reduced to arguing that the existence (3+ / 0-)
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                  of factories serving the military makes an entire city a valid military target?

                  You're seriously going to argue this if someone nukes an American city?

                  You have no consistent standard.  Just "us good them bad".

                  income gains to the top 1% from 2009 to 2011 were 121% of all income increases. How did that happen? Incomes to the bottom 99% fell by 0.4%

                  by JesseCW on Sat Mar 16, 2013 at 03:40:50 PM PDT

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          •  Yes it does (3+ / 0-)

            And it does not includ an act by a government during a lawfully declared war.

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            by dhonig on Sun Mar 17, 2013 at 01:40:39 PM PDT

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