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  •  By this I mean... (5+ / 0-)

    Universal living wage that all workers have access to. Of course some are making a living wage. But a wage that forces people to borrow money they can't afford to pay back in order to have a home, health care, and other necessities isn't a living wage.

    Debt should be abolished. Not just regulated, but completely abolished.

    "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

    by ZhenRen on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 06:02:23 PM PDT

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    •  evening zhen... (5+ / 0-)

      good to see you!

      i don't care how they accomplish it, whether it's through living wage laws, negative income tax or direct distribution of goods, but adequate food, clothing, shelter, healthcare and education need to become entitlements.

      it is ludicrous that in the richest country on the face of the earth that there are people who suffer from the lack of the basics of life.

      i'm part of the 99% - america's largest minority

      by joe shikspack on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 06:18:14 PM PDT

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      •  It's worse than most people conceptualize (6+ / 0-)

        When people can't afford to pay back loans taken out to buy an education, buy health care, or buy a home, or buy clothing, or buy food, they are most likely not making a living wage. It's criminal to drive them into even worse poverty by forcing them to pay back debt, and putting them on a black list (credit reports) if they don't.

        And when highly capable and skilled people must beg for work from less capable and less skilled people, something is wrong.

        One ends up forced to say to prospective employers:

        "Please hire me despite the fact that I was paid too little to pay back my loan, which I used to purchase an education (or health care, or housing, or even food)."

        This is a crime against humanity. And most people simply don't see what an injustice it is.

        "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

        by ZhenRen on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 06:36:02 PM PDT

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    •  Likewise, (6+ / 0-)

      a wage to full time workers that forces taxpayers to still provide assistance to those workers in the form of food stamps, heating assistance, etc. isn't a living wage.  That's actually a subsidy to corps by taxpayers for a line item on the corps' financials that reads "costs of business; fixed costs - wages."  The corps are profit-taking at the expense of taxpayers who are, in essence, shouldering a portion of the corps' costs of doing business.

    •  That too (5+ / 0-)

      we are reliving the 20s right now.

      I don't negotiate grand bargains with deficit terrorists!

      by priceman on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 06:59:50 PM PDT

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      •  And in the 20s... (4+ / 0-)

        they didn't have the technology and structure to have black lists of debtors, that I know of. The blacklisting by the owner class of the worker class, in which the unemployed (an unjust concept in itself) who haven't paid debt are deemed unqualified to work, is one of the most draconian devices ever devised.

        I'll bet workers in the 20s didn't have to deal with THAT modern horror. Nor did they have to deal with such privacy invasions as drug testing, or checking writings on the internet, before being hired.

        "In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

        by ZhenRen on Tue Mar 26, 2013 at 07:23:36 PM PDT

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