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  •  I just hope that Abercrombie (0+ / 0-)

    hasn't schismed the Hawaii Democratic party unnecessarily by not appointing Hanabusa to the Senate. Keeping an Asian American in Inouye's Senate seat was very important to him and that loyally Democratic demographic of the HA-DP, and Abercrombie gave no fucks about that in appointing his LG buddy.

    The thing is, Hawaii has such a dominant Democratic party because white liberals have a strong alliance with Asian American and native Hawaiian voters. It would be bad if either part of that equation gets turned off. White liberals might be upset if both Schatz and Abercrombie go down in flames in the same primary cycle (because they are a minority in the party).

    "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

    by ArkDem14 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:05:56 AM PDT

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    •  And where exactly would they go? (2+ / 0-)
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      ArkDem14, gabjoh

      Try being an African American or Hispanic in New York or California. Or pretty much any minority in any other state. I have no sympathy.

      •  I don't have any sympathy either (3+ / 0-)
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        ndrwmls10, James Allen, Gygaxian

        Especially since we're talking about a wealthy, privileged minority group here that is in no way underrepresented in state politics (if anything, they are overrepresented). And yes, I don't see that they have anywhere else to go except the Republican party.

        "Once, many, many years ago I thought I was wrong. Of course it turned out I had been right all along. But I was wrong to have thought I was wrong." -John Foster Dulles. My Political Compass Score: -4.00, -3.69, Proud member of DKE

        by ArkDem14 on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:28:48 AM PDT

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        •  I don't sense the racial conflict you fear (4+ / 0-)
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          Stephen Wolf, Skaje, HoosierD42, ArkDem14

          Hawaii is majority-minority, there is no such group as "Asians" there.  The Asian subgroups are GROUPS when their numbers are large enough, as they are in Hawaii.

          My sense is that there isn't that much racial strife in the state's politics, I won't say "none" but not of the depth you seem to fear.  People of all races seem plenty willing to vote for candidates not of their own race.

          45, male, Indian-American, married and proud father of a girl and 2 boys, Democrat, VA-10

          by DCCyclone on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 07:44:00 PM PDT

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    •  That sounded harsh. (0+ / 0-)

      Sorry!

    •  I really don't agree (6+ / 0-)

      with that reading of the situation in Hawaii.  Those of Japanese ancestry are by far the most solidly Democratic group in Hawaii...in precincts with high concentrations of them, Democrats get well over 80% consistently.  They're not about to abandon the party that they by and large still run.  As for white liberals, well they are also some of the most hardcore Democrats in the state.  They're not about to leave just because Abercrombie, of middling approval ratings, gets primaried out.  Hell, if the massive margin in that poll is to be believed, then it is likely that white liberals have already soured on Abercrombie and are supporting Hanabusa.

      My honest opinion, based on what I've heard in Hawaii and family members back there I've talked to, is that nobody really cares about Abercrombie ignoring Inouye's request.  There's a few partisans on one end who are actually glad he didn't let Inouye continue to run the party even in death, just as there are partisans who are mad at Abercrombie.  But for most voters, I get the sense they simply don't care about the politics of this situation, and just want to have capable representatives.  I definitely do not think anything close to a majority of Hawaii voters wants to "punish" Abercrombie and Schatz for disregarding Inouye's choice.

      If Hanabusa does run, it will almost certainly be against the weaker Abercrombie.  But I still suspect she just waits four years and then easily becomes governor after him.  Otherwise, she risks the premature end to her career that Ed Case famously suffered (had Case just waited, he would be a US senator now).

      •  Abercrombie's a sitting duck. (0+ / 0-)

        He's no where near as strong as Akaka was in 2006.

        •  No incumbent is a sitting duck. (1+ / 0-)
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          HoosierD42

          Especially one with 40%+ approvals.

          20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
          politicohen.com
          Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
          UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

          by jncca on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 09:29:39 PM PDT

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          •  One Civil Beat poll had him in the 40's. (0+ / 0-)

            Civil Beat doesn't have a fantastic track record. Perhaps Hanabusa's poll is wildly wrong, but perhaps it's only half wrong. He's still not in a great position.

            •  I think you're boosting a female candidate again. (0+ / 0-)

              20, CA-18 (home), CA-13 (school)
              politicohen.com
              Socially libertarian, moderate on foreign policy, immigration, and crime, liberal on everything else.
              UC Berkeley; I think I'm in the conservative half of this city. -.4.12, -4.92

              by jncca on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:52:09 PM PDT

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