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  •  I agree that they can be very valuable. (6+ / 0-)

    But when the most violent sport is given a status much higher than every other sport at a school, you have to ask yourself why. Cross country is probably a much better sport in terms of maximizing health, and yet marching bands don't play races. And of course there's the gender disparity. When girls' sports are put on a pedestal the way that boys' are, then the sports culture of your average American school will deserve a lot more respect.

    •  When I played football... (10+ / 0-)

      we were taught we had to be the masters of our emotions.  

      We had to be able to go after a quarterback with the intensity of a lion killing it's prey and then after we decleated him and dropped him so hard he could not find his breath, we would stand and offer him our hand to help him up as well.  Flip the emotions on and off like a light switch.

      I think the second part of that equation is no longer being taught.  I seldom see an opposing player offering a hand up anymore.  I think that aspect of the game kept people human and respectful both on the field and away.  

      We were taught that cowards took cheap shots and when we were cheap shotted, it simply strengthened our resolve to bury them next play (but we remained in control of our emotions).  Now, I am not saying we were perfect (coming from someone who has been ejected from a game before) but for the most part, we played with honor and integrity.  It was important to us.  

      These boys obviously have no respect for young women, their parents, their coaches and most likely even themselves.  

      "Perhaps the sentiments contained in the following pages, are not YET sufficiently fashionable to procure them general favour..."

      by Buckeye Nut Schell on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:58:58 AM PDT

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    •  Heh. (1+ / 0-)
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      salmo

      Competition marching bands won't even play at football games.  But the other sports/fields are not necessarily compatible with marching bands. Let alone the lack of half times at cross country meets. But I will suggest that to our music director.  

      I'd like to see them play at hockey games but then again - that is a club sport and not officially sanctioned by the school.

      "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

      by newfie on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:25:33 AM PDT

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      •  That's a total red heering from my point. (1+ / 0-)
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        Horace Boothroyd III

        We all know full well that football is venerated in a way that other sports are not, and that it is venerated specifically because it is a violent sport. It might not have to be, but, as of now, it is.

        •  I cannot speak for every (0+ / 0-)

          community.  I can only speak for ours.  And in our community the football team is not venerated in this way.  But at our school, the major athletic successes occur in other sports - lacrosse, baseball, field hockey, ice hockey, soccer, tennis etc.  So football isn't the only game in town.

          I was not the one to suggest marching bands at cross country meets - I just went with what I thought was a humorous vision.  And one that our music director will find hilarious as well.

          So don't misinterpret what I am saying.  I am fully on board with the concept that at some (perhaps many) schools football rules the roost and that gets taken to ridiculous heights.  But I think that the sport - like all sports and activities -is a good opportunity to learn and grow and is a good opportunity to be abused as well.

          "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

          by newfie on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 04:31:33 PM PDT

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    •  My daughter's school deserves your respect then (3+ / 0-)
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      Cassandra Waites, newfie, jayden

      I went to an all boy's school, and that was so long ago that girls' athletics really weren't very exciting.  Take the rules under which girls played basketball back then.  There is nothing like attending an all boys boarding school to make a high school boy want to travel across the valley to the sister school, but even with all that, those girls' basketball games were just deadly dull.  

      However, when my daughter's girls' soccer team won, they were feted every bit as enthusiastically as were the boys' team when they won.  It was the winning, not the team's sex, that mattered.  There were no differences between their crowds in size or enthusiasm.  Examining my memories for differences brings to mind the time several of the mothers admonished me about cheering a particularly tough physical play.  They wanted parents to encourage a more "ladylike" style.  I was a single parent.  These women and I had shared seats in the stands for years, going back to grade school when there was no one else there.  It was not their first criticism of my approach to parenting (always constructively intended, I think).  I was unapologetic then, and remain convinced that one of my daughter's more useful learning experiences were her high school athletics, where expectations explicitly countered that sort of stereotype.    

      •   That school does have my respect! I felt (2+ / 0-)
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        salmo, white blitz

        like I got a lot out of sports at my school, but it was a private school that emphasized that girls' sports do matter.

        Sadly, when I attended public school, it wasn't the same. Girls shouldn't have to pay tuition fees to get respect. The difference to me was really sad. I'm sure there must be exceptions somewhere, but I haven't personally heard of any.

      •  Well our public school (1+ / 0-)
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        salmo

        has had a large number of successful girl's sports teams as well.  And that may add to the atmosphere.  In fact, the football team is probably one of the least successful on a State level.

        "You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity"

        by newfie on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 04:25:04 PM PDT

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