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  •  Right On Target! (3+ / 0-)
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    At our local schools, bright kids were introduced to about 4 colleges, most of them in the local area and one of them, a public ivy in the same state.  While we were dirt poor, we had lots of head capital between the two of us and the rest of the family.  We knew how to rate colleges internally and we knew how to get connected to the people to whom we needed to speak.  Local alumns can help those who aren't blessed in that way. Alumns from some schools do it as a matter of course.  

    We also found that private school was much less expensive than public schools for very bright, academically ambitious students. I assumed, incorrectly it seems, that that was generally known.  When you check out Colleges, the 4th thing you rate is endowment and average gifts.  The first thing you rate is the overall quality of the school, second is average class size, third thing is quality of the your choices of departments (third because you may radically change your mind), and the 4th is ENDOWMENT and GIFTS

    Newt 2012. Sociopath, adulterer, hypocrite, Republican.

    by tikkun on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 08:48:12 AM PDT

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    •  Hahvahd (6+ / 0-)

      had so much money in endowments (before the recession, now it's a different story) they were going to waive tuition for every student. That's how much money some of these places have. For a bright low-income student they want they will move heaven and earth to put together a financial aid package to get that student there. Also, if a student is bright and is an athlete, that may help even more because of athletic scholarships, and for all sorts of things like volleyball and field hockey.

      Unfortunately, as we starve our schools of cash we also starve our students of counselors, who are the ones who know this stuff.

      "No one has the right to spend their life without being offended." Philip Pullman

      by zaynabou on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 09:26:56 AM PDT

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      •  I Think This Is The Kind Of Mission Local Alums (2+ / 0-)
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        can be convinced to take up.  It isn't hard to set up a college fair so that students can get an brief intro to the possibilities.  In rural areas, it would probably be a good thing to have several schools do one college fair for the all of them.  Some of this stuff is just common sense stuff that can be solved fairly easily.  

        Getting kids in tough enough classes to succeed at the level of work demanded by nationally rated college is a much tougher nut to crack.

        Newt 2012. Sociopath, adulterer, hypocrite, Republican.

        by tikkun on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 09:35:42 AM PDT

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        •  Yeah (3+ / 0-)
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          my education in the early 80s in public school was a lot more rigorous than what I am seeing now, judging by the undergraduates I got in classes. The whole "teaching to the test" thing doesn't teach anything, but how to take a bloody test.

          "No one has the right to spend their life without being offended." Philip Pullman

          by zaynabou on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 09:43:02 AM PDT

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