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  •  In Santa Cruz CA (0+ / 0-)

    we have the grey bears giving away food to its members and if a homeless person signs up to be a grey bear they get a bag of food and a loaf of bread each week . I've handed out thousands upon thousands of bags of food .
    I wonder if I handed a bag of food to a grey bear member in houston ...

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    by indycam on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 08:52:05 AM PDT

    •  That sounds like groceries (0+ / 0-)

      Food to take away and prepare and consume elsewhere. Most cities with ordinances like Houston's are dealing with groups that come out and serve sandwiches, soup, stew, pizza, whatever; to be eaten there at the point of delivery. Trash, safe food handling (cold things cold, hot things hot) and similar issues become the concern.

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      by Catte Nappe on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 09:15:41 AM PDT

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      •  There are things in the bag (0+ / 0-)

        that need no prep / cooking . In fact most things in the bag can be / should be eaten sans cooking . I'm much more concerned with people getting food to eat .

        Trash, safe food handling (cold things cold, hot things hot) and similar issues become the concern.
        If you wish to enforce anti litter laws , I don't mind at all . If you are worried that food isn't being cold or hot , I'm more concerned that people get food to eat .

        If you are concerned about litter , hire the homeless to pick up trash , feed them , give to them in return for trash .
        Around here , bottles , aluminum , plastic and glass don't last long out in the open . They are grabbed up asap .

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        by indycam on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 09:36:47 AM PDT

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        •  They should be grateful for what they get? (1+ / 0-)
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          Regarldess of its quality or condition?

          A counter proposal would be to have places serving healthful, properly prepared and handled food that can be eaten while sitting at a table; instead of relying on people dishing "whatever" out of their trunk in some vacant lot.

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          by Catte Nappe on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:01:57 AM PDT

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            They should be grateful for what they get?
            Who said anything about what they should feel ?
            Regarldess of its quality or condition?
            Are you responding to something I said ? If you think this bullshit law in houston is to protect the people from the "quality or condition" of the food , I'll say you might need to think again .
            I've seen more than a few young ladies come out of restaurants with "doggy bags" and then hand that food to a homeless person . Damn it all if that person needs to be penalized for being a kind caring human .
            A counter proposal would be to have places serving healthful, properly prepared and handled food that can be eaten while sitting at a table;
            Go for it . I have no problem with your doing your very best to feed people . I don't know anyone who feels the need to go to all the trouble of setting up tables etc when they are getting food to the homeless , they all seem much more focused of getting food to the hungry rather than being concerned with such trivial things .
            instead of relying on people dishing "whatever" out of their trunk in some vacant lot.
            Your , "whatever" , "trunk" , "vacant lot" , tells me a great deal about you .
            If I want to give "whatever" food to people out of the "trunk" of my vehicle while parked in a "vacant lot" , you should be supporting me , lending a hand , chipping in , not getting in the way , etc etc etc .

            I've given away , handed to people , delivered , thousands and thousands of pounds of food to people .
            This is a subject I know about from personal experience .
            This is not just something I've just talked about .

            What have you done to feed the homeless ?

             

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            by indycam on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:34:42 AM PDT

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            •  "not getting in the way" (1+ / 0-)
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              And there is actually a key point of the whole debate. Because yes, I too am speaking from personal experience, and plenty of it. Including working with teams of people who are providing food to homeless people. Prepared in a proper kitchen using proper food handling techinques. Served to people sitting at tables. It is, however, not a case of "no questions asked". Questions are asked like "Have you seen the doctor about that infected foot? Is it healing? Do you need clean socks?"  Questions like "Are you taking your medication every day?" Questions like "Would you be interested in moving into a room at the XYZ SRO if one opens up?"  

              Personal experience also including going under freeway overpasses to try and persuade people "living" there to come in to places that have those kinds of services available. And people who are offering "whatever" over in the vacant lot are "getting in the way" of providing that broader, deeper and longer term help. Often doing so with a short sighted agenda of a weekly or monthly "feel good" and a report back at the church on how many people they prayed with last Tuesday.

              (BTW, I don't think there is such thing as "the homeless".  There are homeless men, homeless women, homeless elders, homeless youth, homeless veterans - and each individual has uniquely indiviudal problems needing uniquely individual solutions. )

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              by Catte Nappe on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 11:10:19 AM PDT

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