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  •  also, on rereading your link (1+ / 0-)
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    I think "we should drop this word because nobody's getting it who doesn't already know what we mean by it" is a much better argument than "we should drop this word because it's insulting," in this circumstance.

    Mind you, "because it's insulting" does carry some weight with me, but I'm having a hard time coming up with an alternative.

    •  my argument wasn't that it was insulting (0+ / 0-)

      just that it's actually more sexism, not less.

      the link goes into more detail about why it's not a good term.  more than just nobody's getting it.

      the issue is more complicated than that.  our language should reflect the nuance in this issue rather over simplify with colorful, sexist words.

      -You want to change the system, run for office.

      by Deep Texan on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 12:34:02 PM PDT

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      •  As I have said below (0+ / 0-)

        I think inventing a better term may be a good idea.

        •  that's my answer to a lot of these types of (0+ / 0-)

          situations.  to me saying grow a pair, means i am lazy. i want to explain my feelings on this subject but i can't think of the right words etc. it's a crutch like cursing all the time is.

          same thing as mansplain. there are already plenty of words to use to describe the behavior. behavior that exists in both sexes btw.  so creating a term for just one sex is sexist itself.  

          mancave - sexist
          mansplaining - sexist

          do i have to explain why mancave is sexist? feminists should understand. i do.

          -You want to change the system, run for office.

          by Deep Texan on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 01:46:08 PM PDT

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          •  There are not, in fact, plenty of words (2+ / 0-)
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            to describe the behavior in a sufficiently nuanced way to illustrate the behavior's gender-based context.

            •  yes they are, books are full of them (0+ / 0-)

              there just isn't one easy word and i would argue one word isn't enough to describe this accurately.

              that's because it is more complicated than that. it's about more than just the sexes.  it's about culture, history, power and all these things aren't exactly consistent or clear cut.

              point is women also mansplain.  those that believe in the old way and force it upon their daughters.  they do exist.

              point is it's sexism.  that's the word for it.  the easiest way to explain it. it's sexism.

              creating a new word to describe this behavior in men is itself sexist.

              -You want to change the system, run for office.

              by Deep Texan on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 02:03:28 PM PDT

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              •  ... that's not what mansplaining is. at all. (2+ / 0-)
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                point is women also mansplain.  those that believe in the old way and force it upon their daughters.  they do exist.
                Women also oppress other women in gendered ways, but what you are describing -- believing in the old way and forcing it on their daughters -- has nothing whatsoever to do with what we're talking about here.
                •  yes they do it too (0+ / 0-)

                  exact same thing from a woman.

                  have you been to texas?

                  -You want to change the system, run for office.

                  by Deep Texan on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 02:14:38 PM PDT

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                  •  ... (2+ / 0-)
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                    what you are describing -- believing in the old way and forcing it on their daughters -- has nothing whatsoever to do with what we're talking about here.
                    •  that's just one aspect (0+ / 0-)

                      which is usually the bigger part that i have experienced.

                      the mansplaining, the condescending sexism of let me tell you how it is, is also part. women do it to men too about the things men cannot possibly understand.

                      to say otherwise is ducking the underlying issues here.  

                      -You want to change the system, run for office.

                      by Deep Texan on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 02:25:31 PM PDT

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