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  •  Read his comment on gay marriage (8+ / 0-)

    That's exactly why I called him out for stepping in a great big pile of poop.

    "I mean that would be an alternative to say not have the government sanction marriage period, and leave that up to the churches and the synagogues and others to define that."

    There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

    by Puddytat on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 01:54:36 PM PDT

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    •  I had interpreted his comment as being (4+ / 0-)
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      "marriage is what religions do" and supplied myself the extension that "the state determines the legalities" so it would be a separation of church and state.  The church does the ceremony and spirituality, the state would do the legalese.  Foolish me - he's not supportive of a separation between church and state on this issue.  That would be too intellectual.

    •  "Let's leave marriages to churches..." (4+ / 0-)
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      and give everyone a civil union."

      After all what would it take? Only a major overhaul of state laws (to convert marriages to civil unions) and federal laws (to recognize for the purpose of establishing federal benefits and responsibilities), so no big deal, right?

      That argument has worked really well so far, Scott. :)

      •  The problem with that is that civil (2+ / 0-)
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        unions would allow too much wiggle room for insurance companies and others to weasle out.  Family plans available only to married folks and the like.  

        To really ensure equality means to use the same marriage as everyone else.  No wiggle room.

        There already is class warfare in America. Unfortunately, the rich are winning.

        by Puddytat on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 03:59:55 PM PDT

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        •  Well there's that (2+ / 0-)
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          Plus the whole "see how the evil gayz ruined marriage???" outcry.

          Abandoning civil marriage and replacing it with something else would be similar to certain cities (Little Rock, I think) closing their entire public school system down rather than allowing it to be racially integrated. And then blaming "those people."

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