Skip to main content

View Diary: Drunk Teen Fatally Shot For Entering His Neighbor's Home Thinking It Was His Home (141 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Wow ! (11+ / 0-)

    It takes real guts to stand up for
    killing teenage drunk unarmed kids who are not threatening anybody .

    Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

    by indycam on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 08:20:35 PM PDT

    [ Parent ]

    •  Someone whom breaks into a home in the middle (4+ / 0-)
      Recommended by:
      gerrilea, noway2, KVoimakas, Tom Seaview

      of the night constitutes a threat.

      Any judge, jury or cop would agree.

      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

      by FrankRose on Mon Mar 18, 2013 at 10:15:47 PM PDT

      [ Parent ]

      •  Don't you get a bit tired of trying to (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Paul1a

        defend the indefensible?
        What if this had been your kid?
        Do you know the word, "empathy?"
        I bet the shooter feels a whole lot worse than you do and would not welcome your defense of his gun against the life of a drunken teen.
        Sheesh!

        Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

        by JoanMar on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:01:42 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  How am I defending the indefensible? (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          gerrilea, Tom Seaview

          Are you trying to argue that the homeowner should be prosecuted?

          Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

          by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:26:28 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  No, actually I am not. (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            Paul1a

            I hope he feels heartbroken that a child is dead but I don't think he could be found guilty of anything other than trying to protect his home.
            We are talking about you. You who jumped into this diary to immediately defend the gun rather than express some sympathy for the suffering parents and loved ones of a teen who lost his way and paid dearly for his mistake.

            Maya Angelou: "Without courage, we cannot practice any other virtue with consistency. We can't be kind, true, merciful, generous, or honest."

            by JoanMar on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:49:05 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

      •  Ha ! (1+ / 0-)
        Recommended by:
        Paul1a
        Any judge, jury or cop would agree.
        You know how every judge , jury and cop thinks ! Good god that's funny .

        Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

        by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:40:17 AM PDT

        [ Parent ]

        •  So long as there is a right to self-defense, (2+ / 0-)
          Recommended by:
          gerrilea, Tom Seaview

          It will cover an unknown home invader whom has broken into the home in the middle of the night & is blocking the only avenue of escape.
          It doesn't take "knowing every judge jury and cop". All it takes is the slightest knowledge of the law.

          Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

          by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:49:28 AM PDT

          [ Parent ]

          •  Keep it up , I'm pleased no end . (1+ / 0-)
            Recommended by:
            Paul1a
            Any judge, jury or cop would agree.
            VS
            It doesn't take "knowing every judge jury and cop".
            You claim to know something "Any judge, jury or cop would agree" and then you claim that it "It doesn't take "knowing..."

            Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

            by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:57:06 AM PDT

            [ Parent ]

            •  They have "knowledge of the law" (2+ / 0-)
              Recommended by:
              gerrilea, Tom Seaview

              And anyone whom does wouldn't charge nor convict.

              It's not a difficult concept. Perhaps you should learn it prior to hitting 'post'

              Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

              by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:09:00 PM PDT

              [ Parent ]

              •  Do keep on doing what you do (0+ / 0-)

                it makes me grin .
                I'll suggest you do a little research on people who have been arrested , tried and convicted for the very thing , prior to hitting 'post' yet again .
                If you fail to find , do try and ask one of your friends to help you , they might be able to help you , but maybe they will also fail at uncovering the truth .

                Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

                by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:26:08 PM PDT

                [ Parent ]

                •  Why don't you link them? (1+ / 0-)
                  Recommended by:
                  PavePusher

                  Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                  by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:37:28 PM PDT

                  [ Parent ]

                  •  You want me to link to what you say does (0+ / 0-)

                    not exist ? Whats in it for me ? If I link to stories of arrests , trials and even convictions , all these things you say never happen , if I prove to you that what you have said and repeated numerous time is total crap , what are you going to do for me ?
                    You are asking me to do for you what you should have already done for yourself .

                    Lets just for example say that I post a link to a double murder conviction of a man who killed two intruders , then what ? What will you do in return ?

                    What if I post another link to a guy who was convicted and sentenced to death . What will you do then ?

                    You see I don't see anything in this for me , while you get a free education about what really goes on in the world .

                    Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

                    by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:58:42 PM PDT

                    [ Parent ]

                    •  You say they do. (0+ / 0-)

                      Link up or shut up.

                      Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                      by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:16:43 PM PDT

                      [ Parent ]

                      •  Oh , big man with the "words" !!! (0+ / 0-)

                        You amuse me no end !

                        Whats in it for me to prove that you are just bull shitting ?
                        When I post proof that people get arrested , tried and convicted , what are you going to give me in return ?

                        Here is one for free ,

                        "Byron David Smith was arrested after he told police he shot and killed two teenagers who he said were breaking into his home on Thanksgiving Day.

                        "If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again," Byron David Smith of Little Falls told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.

                        Smith was charged with two counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of Haile Kifer, 18, and her cousin, Nicholas Brady, 17, both of Little Falls."

                        Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

                        by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:31:58 PM PDT

                        [ Parent ]

                        •  Yeah....no difference between this case and (1+ / 0-)
                          Recommended by:
                          PavePusher

                          that one.

                          /eye-roll

                          Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                          by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:40:17 PM PDT

                          [ Parent ]

                          •  So killing invaders does result in (0+ / 0-)

                            arrest , prosecution and conviction and all you have to say is they are not the same ? So sad that your sad little bubble doesn't cover very much .

                            I don't do eye rolls because my mother taught her children that they are only done by ...

                            When I post proof that people get arrested , tried and convicted , what are you going to give me in return ?
                            Looks like I have my answer .

                            Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

                            by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:23:43 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  Sure do. (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            PavePusher

                            And such a devastating rebuke it was.
                            Great Job.
                             

                            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                            by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:31:40 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  Eh ? (0+ / 0-)
                            And such a devastating rebuke it was.

                            .....................................
                            An appeals court has overturned a Cleveland man’s murder conviction, saying his jury wasn’t properly instructed on the “castle doctrine” that allows people to use deadly force in their home.
                            Arrested , prosecuted , convicted .
                            It took jurors less than an hour to decide Thursday that they didn't believe a former York City woman's claim that she mistook her live-in boyfriend for an intruder when she shot him at least seven times, killing him.
                            Arrested , prosecuted , convicted .
                            TAUNTON, Mass.— A New Bedford homeowner who fatally shot a man he thought had broken into his house has been acquitted by a Bristol Superior Court jury of second-degree murder.
                            Arrested , prosecuted , not convicted .
                            The Iowa Court of Appeals has upheld the murder conviction of a northwest Iowa woman found guilty 10 years after the crime.

                            Tracey Richter claimed she shot 20-year-old Dustin Wehde in self-defense in 2001. She told police two or three intruders had entered her home and she was trying to protect her three children when she shot and killed Wehde.

                            Arrested , prosecuted , convicted .
                            Athena Wortham was asleep in her home on Sunday morning when she woke up to find an intruder allegedly trying to strangle her. She did what anyone who was fighting for their life might do -- she killed him.

                            But now an apparent act of self defense has landed her in jail. San Francisco police said they arrested 42-year-old Wortham on suspicion of murder.

                            Arrested
                            ..................................................
                            A Nunavut man who was convicted of murder and attempted murder for shooting and killing three people and injuring two others after they broke into his house has had his convictions overturned.
                            Arrested , prosecuted , convicted .
                            Anthony Edward "Tony" Martin is a farmer from Norfolk, England, who shot a burglar dead in his home in August 1999.
                            Martin was convicted of murder, later reduced to manslaughter on grounds of diminished responsibility,
                            Arrested , prosecuted , convicted .

                            Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

                            by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:57:36 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  Cite Newsmax much? (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            PavePusher

                            Why don't you try linking your examples?

                            I know why. ;)

                            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                            by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:21:45 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  You can't figure how to see them yourself ? (0+ / 0-)

                            You really need your hand held ?

                            I know why. ;)
                            Really ? Do tell !

                            Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

                            by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:25:43 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  I did see one....from Newsmax. (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            PavePusher

                            So why don't you link them all?
                            (Pssst--I already know why you aren't linking the Iowa case either)

                            Link them, why ever wouldn't you? ;)

                            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                            by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:28:59 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  ... (0+ / 0-)
                            I did see one....from Newsmax.
                            Really ? Wow ! I bet that made your day !
                            ............................
                            I know why. ;)
                            vs
                            Link them, why ever wouldn't you? ;)
                            ............................
                            (Pssst--I already know why you aren't linking the Iowa case either)
                            Really ? Do tell !

                            This exchange has become so very boring , I don't care anything about you or what you think or say .
                            You are just a person who thinks its ok to kill unarmed , non threatening kids . You have nothing interesting to say . It just is small little bs games at best . I just feel sorry for you .

                            Drop the name-calling MB 2/4/11 + Please try to use ratings properly! Kos 9/9/11

                            by indycam on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:38:05 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  Do link them, but just for fun... (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            PavePusher

                            Iowa case, your (unprovided) link: " prosecutors said there was no home invasion"
                            Way to compare a home invasion to 'no home invasion'.

                            Can't believe you didn't provide a link for it....or your Newsmax sourcing. Weird.

                            Please. More. ;)

                            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                            by FrankRose on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:43:25 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  never even reply to indycam, all he attempts is (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            PavePusher

                            to derail and throw enough shit in the hope some sticks.....he also hopes no one reads them carefully as they are usually so full of flat out lies and blatant contradictions they end up a parody of their self and their author.....

                            Plus ignoring them really eats their ass.......

                            Vaya con Dios Don Alejo
                            I want to die a slave to principles. Not to men.
                            Emiliano Zapata

                            by buddabelly on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 02:44:51 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

                          •  Well, you're half right.... (1+ / 0-)
                            Recommended by:
                            buddabelly

                            although your description of his writing style is very apt, I have to admit I found my correspondence with him to be both amusing and satisfying.;)

                            Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

                            by FrankRose on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:46:20 PM PDT

                            [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site