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  •  Once again, and for the last time... (1+ / 0-)
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    the girl made her own name public.

    Emotional outrage? Mine? I think you'd better look back at your posts.

    'If you want to be a hero, well just follow me.' - J. Lennon

    by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:57:38 AM PDT

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    •  Once again, it's a violation of law for YOU (3+ / 0-)
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      Deep Texan, antimony, Tonedevil

      to reveal her name. It is not a violation of law for HER to reveal her own name.

      Revealing the name of any juvenile should always be the wrong thing to do.

      But here's the rub:

      If it's revealing the name of the victim, the commenters bash those who leaked her name.

      If it's revealing the name of the girls who threatened the victim, then the commenters rationalize revealing her name. It's somehow fair because she posted her own name. Or it's ok because her peers need to know she did something bad.

      Can't have it both ways.

      The fact is that all of these names are known. Each person, including the victim, revealed their own name.

      So there is no possible valid justification for treating the exposure of the names differently. The ONLY difference is the emotions of the commenters. It bad vs. victim. Yes, there's a difference in how we feel about each of these people.

      If you are that teenager girl. If your child is that teenage girl. If that teenage girl next door is....

      It's unethical, It's disrespectful. It's mean. It's unnecessary. It's not your job. It's not your kid. You aren't the parent. You don't even know any of these kids.

      But she revealed her own name, so it's ok.

      There's a reason this is a violation of Ohio law. It's not negotiable.

      "Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it"

      by GrumpyOldGeek on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:04:14 AM PDT

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      •  Good. Now take that to Fox, CNN and MSNBC. nt (3+ / 0-)
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        'If you want to be a hero, well just follow me.' - J. Lennon

        by Clive all hat no horse Rodeo on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 04:11:44 AM PDT

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      •  "I'm gonna tell!!! (0+ / 0-)

        I'm gonna tell !!!!"  sez GOG at least 5 times.

        Who ya gonna tell?

        (silence)
        *******
        Unlike at FAUX, repetition is not likely to change any minds here, GOG.  But it will sure irritate people.  

      •  you are correct (2+ / 0-)
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        Tonedevil, GrumpyOldGeek

        doesn't seem to help though. ppl own bias clouds their judgement here. we are all prone to this.

        you are correct about the legal and ethical considerations. thanks for trying to educate.

        -You want to change the system, run for office.

        by Deep Texan on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:23:34 AM PDT

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        •  Thanks for that. (2+ / 0-)
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          Tonedevil, Deep Texan

          Careful, though. The education is mine. Cognitive bias is a fascinating subject.

          The same irrational thinking goes on with the right, too. The difference is that they tend to support the rapists as the victims. Exposing the name of their accuser, the rape victim, is what they rationalize.

          Oh, and the right wingers jump into ad hominem arguments right away. So I don't learn much from the wingers.

          But it's really the same boneheaded self-will and inflated ego that drives this behavior.

          Hopefully, a few lurkers might have learned something about the blindness that is so apparent in some of the comment in this thread.

          "Never wrestle with a pig: you get dirty and the pig enjoys it"

          by GrumpyOldGeek on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 07:11:16 PM PDT

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      •  The laws will catch up to our technology (0+ / 0-)

        eventually.

        In the meantime, some people are learning some really ugly lessons about pixels on a screen and the forever-ness of our tech.

        David Koch is Longshanks, and Occupy is the real Braveheart.

        by PsychoSavannah on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:12:10 AM PDT

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