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  •  As much as I loathe Bush, I have to disagree (1+ / 0-)
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    In contrast to the current crop of nihilists leading the republican party, Bush pushed for expanded funding of science. During his tenure, the budget of the NIH doubled - after years of stagnation following the mid 90's bipartisan budget cuts.

    Also, he pushed through the PEPFAR which rolled out an aggressive campaign for the treatment and prevention of HIV/AIDS. Now there are some problems with the program as implemented (the requirement that 1/3 of the instruction be given to abstinence), but I would never imagine any such program being started under the current republican presidential pretenders.

    Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity, only not as much fun.

    by Toktora on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:46:36 AM PDT

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    •  Even that program is suspect. (5+ / 0-)

      Bush is a horrible individual without one redeeming quality.

      Why this life tolerates this sort and savages the innocent and good, I will never understand.

      The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men.

      by xxdr zombiexx on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 06:04:38 AM PDT

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      •  You're certainly entitled to your opinion (0+ / 0-)

        but I get the sense that your (accurate) overall opinion of the man may be blinding you to the fact that even really bad people/presidents can do decent things (Nixon and the EPA for instance).

        Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity, only not as much fun.

        by Toktora on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:21:25 AM PDT

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    •  No, that's not how things transpired (4+ / 0-)

      the doubling of the NIH budget * was * was largely a GOP led effort.  (it didn't actually really double, but whatever, it was substantially increased!).

      With President Clinton's endorsement, i.e., it truly was a worthwhile bipartisan effort - started about 1997/8

      Just because Bush 2 inherited the tail end of that, he deserves no credit.

      In fact, from 2003 onwards, he oversaw below-inflation increases in NIH funding for the rest of his presidency.  Which meant that  fewer grants were awarded each year from then on.

      •  You're partially correct (0+ / 0-)

        Yes, Bush inherited the Clinton era expansion. However, the agreed upon increases were nearly reneged upon by Congress in 2000.

        Bush, if he wanted to go along with the Republicans in Congress, could have accepted this and let the NIH budget stagnate at that time. He didn't at that point in time, and actually pushed for the agreed upon funding increases to be implemented...and they were.

        From that time on, the NIH budget has not increased, and in fact is decreasing with the sequester.

        If one simply looks at the total NIH funding one could make an argument that Bush was more pro-science than Obama. A whole ton of other information (stem cell funding, redacting scientific reports for political purposes, greater economic environment, cooperation from congress, etc.) would have to be ignored to do so, but the truth of the matter is that under Obama NIH funding has decreased whereas it increased during Bush's reign of error.

        Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity, only not as much fun.

        by Toktora on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 09:39:54 AM PDT

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    •  Bush vetoed (4+ / 0-)

      embryonic stem cell research more than once after it passed in a bipartisan Congress.

    •  Remember These Gems? (7+ / 0-)

      The top climate scientist at NASA says the Bush administration has tried to stop him from speaking out since he gave a lecture last month calling for prompt reductions in emissions of greenhouse gases linked to global warming.
      At this point, while I am unaware of whether Deutsch graduated from college at all, it is clear that he did not graduate from A&M, and he may have intentionally misled people to believe that he did. The idea that NASA let a 24-year-old journalism major, with no experience in science or technology, other than writing a few articles about video games, determine what scientists were able to communicate to the public was pretty bad.
      More than 60 influential scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates, issued a statement yesterday asserting that the Bush administration had systematically distorted scientific fact in the service of policy goals on the environment, health, biomedical research and nuclear weaponry at home and abroad.
      We're still suffering from the BushCo effects in many ways but it's most significant on the climate change front. The trillions wasted in Iraq will ultimately pale in comparison with the preventable costs we'll incur for ignoring climate change science.

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