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  •  Please proceed (10+ / 0-)

    Act 1: "It's a dangerous bill - Dems will lose elections! Trust me, I know."

    Act 2: "It's a worthless bill - can't possibly reduce gun violence. Trust me, I know."

    Act 3: "Defeat of the bill is excellent news!"

    What do you guys have planned for Act 4?

    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 10:58:22 AM PDT

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    •  Act 4 (12+ / 0-)

      The Feinstein bill as passed out of committee specifically exempts from restrictions, by name, the rifle used in a mass shooting that killed 17 and wounded 32. And all of the variants of that rifle, just to be sure people can still acquire it. Because, you know, safety.

      The bill also classifies the 5-shot, .22 rimfire pistols used by the US Olympic Team as "assault weapons" and bans their sale. And no, they are not on the grandfathered list. Another threat to this nation averted!

      And among the specifically listed types of people who will still be allowed to buy assault weapons are campus police like the pepper spray cop at UC Davis (who also keeps this privilege after he retires). Thank goodness only responsible people can have assault weapons in association with their job at a school.

      Remember, this was not the draft bill, not the rough notes circulating around the office. This is the bill passed out of committee to be voted on by the full Senate.

      Admire the glorious competence in that bill. Marvel at its technical knowledge of guns, its internal moral consistency and profound respect for civil liberties. I feel safer already. How about you?

      •  That's not a plan (8+ / 0-)

        But it is helpful to have those with knowledge of the minutia point out examples of what needs to be rewritten.

        That's very helpful and what I would expect from any Kossack who wants to pass better firearm safety law and elect more and better Dems.

        Thank you.

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:37:12 AM PDT

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        •  Sadly (11+ / 0-)

          I am not an expert on guns. I own them, I am familiar with the technology and respect the power they represent, but I do not do anything in my professional life that has anything to do with guns.

          So, all the things I pointed out above I found with Google.

          I'm not a Senator with decades of experience and a full staff to help me research these things before I make a proposal that could affect a hundred million people. So, if I can find holes that big in it all by my lonesome, it does not say much for the competence of those who put it together, nor anything flattering about those who adjusted it in committee or voted it out of committee. It also does not say much towards its chances of surviving a legal challenge if it is passed.

          A bill as flawed as the Feinstein proposal should not have even gone into committee, much less come out of it. I think we would cheerfully line up and take numbers for the chance to publicly mock a Republican bill with that level of ignorance and ambiguity in it.

          •  The bill is flawed because the gun lobby fights (2+ / 0-)
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            everything tooth and nail and so the only bill that can be written is a flawed bill.

            Regardless, one day soon, an AWB will pass because if AW and high cap mags are not regulated the carnage will continue to the point that it will be demanded by 60%, 70%, etc.

            •  I don't think so (8+ / 0-)

              The bill is flawed because that's the way it was written by Feinstein's office. I've been following it in all its painfully uninformed glory since it was in draft form, and all the worst bits have been there from the start. It's not stuff that was insisted on by the Republicans on the committee, you can look up the draft proposal and see for yourself. Reading it in its entirety will make you so tired of living that you'll be glad you don't have a gun handy, but it's there if you care to look for it.

              Now, if you are saying that the reason for something like outlawing the US Olympic pistol team's guns and exempting a weapon used in one of this country's worst mass shootings is the gun lobby, and the gun lobby twisted Feinstein's arm to add in such appallingly uninformed language, I'm sure everyone here would love to see the evidence for that claim.

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