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  •  Oh, you may be a progressive (7+ / 0-)

    but you won't have much company. For example, this polling question...

    Banning the sale of military-style, semi-automatic assault weapons that are capable of shooting more than 10 rounds of ammunition without reloading?
    And the % approval for it shows where the real opposition is. It's certainly not Democrats. That 13% is the one with a job to do, explaining why we need to appease them and not go with the clear, huge majority against them.

    69% Americans overall
    77% Non-gun owners
    68% Non-gun owner, gun in home
    46% Gun owners
    15% NRA members
    87% Democrats
    64% Independents
    52% Republicans
    63% Men
    75% Women

    We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

    by tytalus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 11:25:23 AM PDT

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    •  I have little faith (7+ / 0-)

      When the questions asked are loaded with language like "military-style" or "assault weapons," to be honest. In those terms, I'm not surprised most people voted for the response they did.

      But I readily concede I'm part of the minority. That doesn't mean we're insignificant. What ignoring us means, however, is that the question of firearms will remain a polarized and ultimately fruitless argument between the extremes on either side. Most Americans will not care until another shooting happens and they will not care for very long, for better or worse.

      •  Those are not loaded terms (5+ / 0-)

        They are from the marketing the gunmakers use, some of which the NRA now regrets, as in their attempts to rebrand these slaughter weapons (now that's loaded) as 'sporting rifles'. Yeah, if by 'sport' we mean the most dangerous game.

        And again, the support for policies like the assault weapons ban show that it is not a matter of extremes on either side; just the one. Majorities of Democrats, Independents, even Republicans. Nothing extreme about it.

        We demanded a plan to reduce gun violence. Now it's time to demand a vote.

        by tytalus on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:11:51 PM PDT

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        •  So if a tool is available fo twenty years (3+ / 0-)
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          and is responsible for less than 3% of crime year after year after year, it should be banned?

          Yep, 'sensible gun laws'.

          Why not offer a tax incentive to reduce the cost of the better safes that are available on the mrket today?  We have seen energy usage drop significantly due to the program to derease the TCO of new, more efficient appliances, why not do the same for safety equipment?

          Criminals use stolen guns.  This is a fact that even the Presient has stated.  Gun safes do keep guns out of the hands of those who are barred from their right to bear arms.  

          Why is there no legislation to do this being sugested by either side?  Because it is not about stopping crime or even about guns.  It is about control.

          Bowers v. DeVito "...there is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered."
          Director of Merchandising - the Liberal Gun Club
          Interim Chairman - Democratic Gun Owners' Caucus of Missouri

          by ErikO on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:33:22 AM PDT

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      •  I don't think anyone is ignoring the middle nt (3+ / 0-)

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:21:46 PM PDT

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