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  •  If they aren't allowed to be armed.... (2+ / 0-)
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    gerrilea, ancblu

    at the target site....

    Yeah, sure.

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    by PavePusher on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:03:12 PM PDT

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    •  I can see 4 possible outcomes (4+ / 0-)

      1. CCW holder kills perp. Parades are held in his honor. Becomes NRA poster child for life.

      2. Perp kills CCW holder. Odds are at least 50/50 in favor of the perp since he already has his weapon drawn.

      3. CCW holder is shot by police.

      4. CCW holder shoots someone other than the perp.

      Of these, only one is a positive outcome and I would consider it to be the least likely by far.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:12:55 PM PDT

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      •  Um, option #5, you missed it. (4+ / 0-)
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        5. Cops kill perp and wound 9 bystanders, by "accident".

        http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/...

        Based on ballistic tests and other evidence, "it appears that all nine of the victims were struck either by fragments or by bullets fired by police," Commissioner Raymond Kelly said Saturday.

        -7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla

        by gerrilea on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:21:13 PM PDT

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        •  And the police get all the blame and all the cost (1+ / 0-)
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          of paying for the injuries.

          We may wish for better training for the police.

          It's not clear how one can argue that one or two civilians with guns drawn on that block would have made is easier for the police to take down the shooter.

          "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

          by LilithGardener on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:18:36 PM PDT

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      •  It's extremely difficult to get credit for (1+ / 0-)
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        stuff that didn't happen.

        There will be no, "Oh, look a hero!" when a CCW holder accidentally kills 3 civilians in a shoot-out with the shooter as they were preventing a massacre."

        Our criminal/civil justice systems just don't work that way.

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:37:02 PM PDT

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      •  "I can see..." (2+ / 0-)
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        FrankRose, ancblu

        You should take off your blinders and be a little more imaginative.

        Or simply look up some actual news stories.

        www.gunssavelives.com

        By the way, killing a criminal is not the only outcome of a successful defensive act.  Your world needs to be a lot less binary/

        Have a great day.

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        by PavePusher on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:38:56 PM PDT

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