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  •  Not you, apparently (3+ / 0-)
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    88kathy, Joy of Fishes, lyvwyr101

    But the 20 million who do choose to live in New York, don't worry about putting their kid on the bus in the morning.

    And they don't mind sending a few extra tax dollars to people, such as yourself, who prefer to live free in wide open Idaho.

    We don't mind, really.  We'll come visit.

    "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

    by LilithGardener on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:04:28 PM PDT

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    •  These comments illustrate the urban/rural divide (6+ / 0-)

      Folks out here in the "wild west", don't worry about putting their kids on buses at all.  Gun violence is rare, and in my county there have been 3 shootings in 10 years (one was a double homicide attributable to mental illness).  They are so rare that the paper runs stories about it for weeks..  When people here go to "The City", they are afraid because of the violent crime and gang warfare, which you have to admit, occurs on a daily basis.  Chicago, New York, Miami, et al have more homicides in a week (and often in 1 day), than my county has in many, many years, maybe decades.  City people should be worried, and it isn't surprising that city people favor gun control and people out here despise the thought, and see it as an usurpation of their rights and an interference in their lives.

      •  Of course it is (4+ / 0-)
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        a2nite, 88kathy, Joy of Fishes, lyvwyr101

        different. It's not possible to make direct comparisons between even small land locked cities and a port city like New York. And that is part of why I think some improvements in gun safety will have to come at the state and local level.

        I'm totally with you re different relative utility/relative risk of firearm ownership. Someone living on 500 ares in Montana has very different needs / risks than someone living in 100 square feet in Brooklyn. Firearm proficiency varies tremendously too.

        Here (in NYC) we do have a problem with extra-judicial killings by police. We don't have a problem with suicide by gun. (In part because there are alternatives).

        OTOH - New York City

        17,000 schools
        1.1 million students
        635,000 K-8 students

        Last mass shooting? 1910 (with a fully automatic pistol)
        The Sullivan Act was passed the following year.

        How? We pay higher taxes and let the police handle any problems.

        There are a lot of stereotypical fears. But, the fact is, the NYC subway accommodates 8 million riders per day. NYC high school students can apply to high school in any of the 3 boroughs, and the take the subway to school. For all its reputation - New York is much safer in some ways than many other parts of the country, in part because CCP applicants are screened by the police.

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:39:11 PM PDT

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    •  I live in Michigan. (1+ / 0-)
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      ancblu

      Last time I checked, we gave more than we received.

      Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

      by KVoimakas on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 01:38:22 PM PDT

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