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  •  One more thought (0+ / 0-)

    If separate schools are beneficial, perhaps they should also have schools which can focus relevant efforts on those students who have non-English parents, academically-limited parents and others who need help at school that more students can get from home.  Only having separate schools for the more privileged (economically and/or intellectually) neither seems good for individuals nor society.

    "We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free capitalism for the poor." - Martin Luther King Jr.

    by workingwords on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:28:46 PM PDT

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    •  You're not gonna like this--but why is it (0+ / 0-)

      ALWAYS the gifted kids who get the short straw? THOSE programs, along with art, music an library programs,  get cut before they cut Special Ed programs? Why do we regard gifted kids as something we can shunt aside?

      Yes, I think it would be good to have after-school tutoring programs and most schools have something like bilingual ed (and they need to).  But why is it okay to treat the more talented kids like red-headed stepchildren to be ignored, as if thheir intelligent is somehow an insult to everyone else and they should be punished for it, rather than praised.  ANd your comments here are precisely what I mean by Special Ed people resenting the hell out of programs to work with the most intelligent students.

      Let me tell you, there were damned few rich or even upper middle class kids in the city system.  There's been some urban devt in some areas--but it's still an inner city,which means smart poor and working class kids will have equal crack at those schools. Or don't smart poor kids count in your book? You seem so intent upon complaining that poor kids are being screwed that it doesn't occur to you that there are SMART poor kids this would help. The kids I knew when i taught were none of them rich--rich and mst middle class moved to the burbs.  But they were smart and hard-working and they got a leg up for college--and some of htem were Black, some white.

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:51:11 PM PDT

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      •  No comment on Baltimore (0+ / 0-)

        I have only your view on Baltimore. I reported on an expert's view on Connecticut.

        I have nothing against having some kind of program for gifted.  I don't want any school cut backs, just the opposite.  But if cuts will happen, I don't think the top priority should be to save the programs for the group of students who are more capable of taking care of their own education.

        "We all too often have socialism for the rich and rugged free capitalism for the poor." - Martin Luther King Jr.

        by workingwords on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 07:34:55 AM PDT

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        •  ANd you ar epart of the problem/ (0+ / 0-)

          Gifted kids CANNOT take care of their own education.  Unless they're challenged, the lose interest.   But you don't care--as you've made clear here. Of course ytou deny my experience as being worth while because it contradicts your theories.  PRACTICAL experience.  The person who taught my class was an expert too--Johns Hopkins was where I was studying, not exactly a community college.  ANd one of th eproblems she talked about was how many bright scioentifically inclined girls   stop trying in the ordinary school systems.   But who cares about gifted girls?

          Defintiely not YOU.

          The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

          by irishwitch on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 07:14:15 PM PDT

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