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  •  exactly - if it gets to Obama, then he will sign (2+ / 0-)
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    Words In Action, skyounkin

    This must be killed in the Senate or else without a doubt Obama will sign it.

    Obama has shown over and over that he endorses and expands the power of the Executive and the secrecy in government.  He has made a major priority to crush dissent and whistleblowing at every level.

    On top of that, he has been the biggest friend large corporations have ever had in the white house.  The AHCA is a gigantic windfall for the insurance and phara industries.  His treatment of Wall Street has been NO PROSECUTIONS and encouragement of increased consolidation.

    What would make anyone think he would veto CISPA?

    I'm sorry - but am I supposed to still genuflect to Obama since he got re-elected?

    Until/unless he demostrates some actual leadership action on the critical issues - he is proving himself Bush part II.

    •  Bush part II, seriously? (1+ / 0-)
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      floydgrant

      Could you imagine ANY Bush endorsing marriage equality? I can't.

      Could you actually imagine Bush allowing the creation of a consumer protection agency? I can't.

      Could you imagine Bush signing Dodd-Frank? I can't.

      Could you imagine Bush ending the Iraq war? I can't.

      Could you imagine Bush bailing out the auto industry? I can't.

      Could you imagine Bush repealing Don't Ask Don't Tell? I can't.

      Could you imagine Bush raising fuel efficiency standards? I can't.

      The list goes on and on and on. Obama is imperfect to be sure, but he's damn sure no Bush II.

      "crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government" -Thomas Jefferson

      by Phil In Denver on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:32:17 PM PDT

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      •  yes, on and on (1+ / 0-)
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        skyounkin

        if the only Change that should be Hoped for is be , then mission accomplished, but . . .

        Can you imagine Bush putting a whistleblower incommunicado torture chamber for, like 2 years?  I can.

        Can you imagine Bush appointing a Goldman-Sachs bag boy to head the Treasury?  I can

        Can you imagine Bush Dept. of Justice saying, Banks are too big to prosecute?  I can

        Can you imagine Bush saying The US policy is officially assassination based on "secret" evidence and no review?  I can.

        Can you imagine Bush supporting chained CPI and raising benefit age?  I can.

        Can you imagine Bush setting a "deadline" to "end" the war like 6 years in the future?  I can.

        The list goes on and on, perfection remain a joke, even a few bones would be nice for a change.

    •  The President threatened a veto last year (0+ / 0-)

      ...but at any rate, the Senate had the chance to pass both CISPA & its equally-evil twin, McCain's SECUREIT last year — & did neither. This zombie bill has been defeated before.

      I think the point is that we don't know "without a doubt" what the President's position is yet — so claims otherwise are premature & unhelpful.

      (Also, this diary is about CISPA; find or write a diary about one of those other topics if that's what you really want to discuss.)

      Time once again to fight cyber-spying! Defeat CISPA!

      by Brown Thrasher on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 05:24:49 PM PDT

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      •  CISPA = Bad, yes; Stop it in Senate = yes (0+ / 0-)

        Obama "threatening" to veto?  mkay, well not so much.

        Efforts to stop CISPA are best focussed on the Senate.

        Call your Senators offices - talk to an interna - get on the call counter against CISPA.

        Do not Hope for an Obama veto to Change CISPA.

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