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  •  The right side of history for the Green Street (14+ / 0-)

    Methodist Church, how wonderful it is to see Christians taking a stand for legal decency.  I hope the the new Pope Francesco I sees this statement and reflects on his church's long standing oppression of the LGBT community.

    •  Unlikely to happen. (7+ / 0-)
      I hope the the new Pope Francesco I sees this statement and reflects on his church's long standing oppression of the LGBT community.
      Francis might be better than Benedict or JPII on some economic issues and certainly seems more in tune with the problems facing the poor, but I don't think there's any way we're going to see any progress in the Roman Church on any gender or sexuality issue (whether that's women clergy, LGBT rights, or contraception and reproductive choice) during his papacy. I sincerely hope I'm wrong.

      "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

      by JamesGG on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 12:52:53 PM PDT

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      •  Never did I think we would have a president (2+ / 0-)
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        who was Black in my life time.  Not the same thing, right, but change comes when you could have sworn that it could not.

        •  Not at all the same thing, sadly. (5+ / 0-)

          The current president of the US doesn't get to choose exactly which 120 people are going to be electing his/her successor.

          Given that the papacy, which gets to choose the College of Cardinals, has been controlled by the conservative wing of the church for 30+ years now, we're not likely to see any kind of progress in the foreseeable future.

          "When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist." --Dom Helder Camara, archbishop of Recife

          by JamesGG on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:29:02 PM PDT

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          •  good points (1+ / 0-)
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            My blue-sky hopes for the new pope are a lot grayer than a sea change on LGBT issues.

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            by HudsonValleyMark on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 03:35:14 PM PDT

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          •  The catholic church is a world wide organization (1+ / 0-)
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            I strongly think the cardinals picked a pope from Latin America is a way around trying to appease the calls for a more progressive stance on these issues in the U.S. and Europe.  It can grow it's membership in areas that are more willing to be lead by a strong church hierarchy such as Africa and Latin America.  

            The congregations in the U.S. and Europe are shrinking drastically because the church is not willing to be held accountable, so they elect a pope from outside that group as if to say F.U.  We're accountable to no one.  

    •  The Pope won't see it (0+ / 0-)

      & it won't make a bit of difference to the United Methodist Church as a whole.

      "There ain't no sanity clause." Chico Marx

      by DJ Rix on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:16:19 PM PDT

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