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  •  Rampant literacy, on the other hand, (0+ / 0-)

    seems well and truly dead.

    •  too bad (0+ / 0-)

      you have learned so little from your reading.

      Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

      by Mindful Nature on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:05:21 PM PDT

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      •  I've learned not to swallow false symmetries. (0+ / 0-)

        "Poor little rapists -- have a heart for them, you sexist feminazis!"

        •  you (0+ / 0-)

          have learned to cover and divert along with the best of the sexists and racists, apparently.  You have not learned to discern meaning or unweave cultural contexts.  

          The only thing that makes it "false" is that you don't like owning up to your ugliness, just as Rush Limbaugh does not like owning up to his.  But as always, we see the bigot will do anything to deny, deny, deny, rather than understand the vile nature of what they express.

          Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

          by Mindful Nature on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:18:43 PM PDT

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          •  Unweave cultural contexts (0+ / 0-)

            You mean deconstruct masculinity and rape culture?

            You can't do that on DKos. When people have tried, too many men howled for vengeance and they were banned.

            If you want the truth about masculinity and rape, you will have go to one of the places where the "sanctimonious womens' studies set" hang out.

            •  oh, plenty have (0+ / 0-)

              if you read here, you'll see plenty of it.  However, some of us also are equal opportunity in where we turn the magnifying glass.  

              Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

              by Mindful Nature on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:29:18 PM PDT

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              •  More like practiced at false symmetry (0+ / 0-)

                and blaming the victim, as you've illustrated so well.

                •  I see (0+ / 0-)

                  and you are the victim how in advocating sexual violence?  oh, poor you!  Have pity on the poor sexists!

                  As noted, there's nothing false about it.

                  Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                  by Mindful Nature on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:28:56 PM PDT

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                  •  You know nothing about me (0+ / 0-)

                    but you presume much. Mansplaining me to me: no wonder your heart bleeds for rapists.

                    •  oh, deflection! (0+ / 0-)

                      I called you out on joking about genital mutilation.  I figure that statement pretty much stands on its own.  You proceeded to defend it to the hilt and now are trying to accuse me of something I in fact never said or don't think.  THere's  a word for that: deflection.

                      Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                      by Mindful Nature on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 07:26:41 PM PDT

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                      •  Believe it or not, wishing castration on rapists (0+ / 0-)

                        is not very rare among women. And I'm generous enough to include apologists for rapists in my prayers to Kali.

                        •  My suspicion is that the apologetics (0+ / 0-)

                          for these 16-year old rapists is mainly coming from guys who would have gone to jail themselves if such a legal regime had been in existence when they were 16. Or at any rate, empathize very strongly with the rapists.

                          Those who have lives have been shaped at the receiving end of male violence have a different perspective -- and one that the mansplainers are determined to silence.

                          •  I think (0+ / 0-)

                            That jokes about castrating all men preemptively are made by flaming sexists

                            Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                            by Mindful Nature on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 08:38:02 PM PDT

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                          •  Of course -- victims of male violence (0+ / 0-)

                            are all flaming sexists, according to mansplainers.

                          •  Actually (0+ / 0-)

                            I think that these people taste the power and anger that Rush Limbaugh and Bill OReilly bathe in and they like it, and because they're female or black or whatever they think its ok an they have a massive body or deflection and rationalization to defend themselves and their hate speech with.  It should not be tolerated

                            Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                            by Mindful Nature on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 08:56:05 PM PDT

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                          •  And victims of male violence (0+ / 0-)

                            are all the same as Rush etc, according to mansplainers.

                          •  A chauvinist is a chauvinist (0+ / 0-)

                            No matter how deep into denial you are.  As noted, I have said nothing about victims of violence whatsoever.  I took you to task for advocating violence

                            Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                            by Mindful Nature on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 10:11:46 AM PDT

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                          •  A 16 year-old girl was raped (0+ / 0-)

                            but -- for a rarity -- her rapists were punished. So now every tomcat in the nation is unhinged.

                          •  That has nothing to do (0+ / 0-)

                            with your advocacy of "preventative" genital mutilation.  NOthing at all.  And that doesn't give you cover to spread sexist crap.   YOur comment stands alone, and your defense of it is visible to all.

                            Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                            by Mindful Nature on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 10:43:20 AM PDT

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                          •  You really believe you get to set the terms (0+ / 0-)

                            of discourse here, don't you? Is that a male privilege?

                            My comment was snark, intended to unhinge tomcats. It seems to have worked.

                        •  You didn't say rapists (0+ / 0-)

                          You said all football players.  And maybe it is common.  Racism is common among people who have been mugged by black men. Does not make it right

                          Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                          by Mindful Nature on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 08:37:11 PM PDT

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                          •  I think we are getting to the little egg (0+ / 0-)

                            at the center of all the mainsplaining. Racial victimization of a male trumps male victimization of a female in your hierarchy of oppression. Yours is a color-blind patriarchy.

                          •  That dodge (0+ / 0-)

                            Didn't even make sense.  Fact is people who advocate sexual violence as you do need to be calle out on it.  Sad that you are defending such advocacy

                            Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                            by Mindful Nature on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 10:13:01 AM PDT

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                          •  I guess men (0+ / 0-)

                            just don't have any sense of humor :-)

                          •  I guess humans (0+ / 0-)

                            who care about sexism don't find it a laughing matter.

                            "Oh, come on!  It was a joke!"  

                            Hmm.  Where have I heard THAT defense before?

                            Hay hombres que luchan un dia, y son buenos Hay otros que luchan un año, y son mejores Hay quienes luchan muchos años, y son muy buenos. Pero hay los que luchan toda la vida. Esos son los imprescendibles.

                            by Mindful Nature on Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 10:44:17 AM PDT

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                          •  That was the point, of course (0+ / 0-)

                            But when the shoe is on the other foot -- oh, do the tomcats yowl! Feminazis! Men's Rights!

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