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  •  Right now I'm having a hard time (4+ / 0-)
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    kovie, Rosalie907, Puddytat, lostinamerica

    deciding whether it's sheer incompetence or political hackery or some combination of those at the state level here.  Whatever is the cause, though, you're absolutely right about the only situation being for the grass-roots to take back the State Dem Party here.  Message to Dem leadership needs to be:  lead, follow, or get out of the way.

    Couldn't agree with you more about fearing a third party on the Right.  That's break-out-in-a-cold-sweat fear.  

    "A voice is heard in Ramah, weeping and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children and refusing to be comforted, because they are no more." - from the prophet Jeremiah

    by 3goldens on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:05:41 PM PDT

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    •  What's worse about a 3rd party on the right (3+ / 0-)
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      is that if we do something as stupid as put our energies into doing the same thing on the left, we'll so weaken the Democratic party that it'll be far easier for a RW 3rd party to win. The history of LW vs. RW 3rd parties in countries with weak centers is not an encouraging one.

      We on the left have a party. We just need to assert greater power within it. I don't think we can truly take it over as there will never be enough committed lefties who are not 3rd party to do that. But we can attain enough power within it to lessen the power of the corporatists who currently control it and move it to the left, no different from the cons who did this to the GOP despite there still being many corporatists in it too.

      We don't have a coalition-based parliamentary system between parties in the US, but we do have one WITHIN parties, where various factions come together as one for external purposes but fight it out for control internally. Time to make use of that reality instead of just carping from the sidelines or trying to elect people we think are progressive but are really just pretending to be to get our support, only to forget us after winning. I.e. electing actual progressives, like Warren, not fake ones, like, er...you don't want me to start a pie fight, do you?

      :-)

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Tue Mar 19, 2013 at 08:27:10 PM PDT

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