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  •  Why can't these prisoners (2+ / 0-)

    have their cases handled through the regular courts, as they were during past wars?

    The whole thing is ridiculous and, as others have pointed out, destroys the US reputation as a beacon of fair and open justice in the world.

    It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

    by Betty Pinson on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 05:55:38 AM PDT

    •  I don't believe that our latest version of (2+ / 0-)
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      . . . of fair and open justice is worth much to the rest of the people on this planet.

      What have we become, Betty?  Dozens of men who are being held prisoner for as long as 11 years are starving themselves because of us.  No trials.  Hell, no charges or indictments.

      Why are they there?

      Celtic Merlin
      Carlinist

      Struggle with dignity against injustice. IS there anything more honorable that a person can do?

      by Celtic Merlin on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:04:07 AM PDT

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      •  and what are we afraid of? (2+ / 0-)

        Surely our attorneys can make a case in court.  If they don't have enough evidence, how do they know these people are terrorists?

        It's not worth our loss of respect in the world community, nor is it worth to the erosion of our judicial system to keep these people locked up without a trial.

        It is an old strategy of tyrants to delude their victims into fighting their battles for them. FDR

        by Betty Pinson on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:27:25 AM PDT

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        •  The majority of those turned in for the Bush (1+ / 0-)
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          rewards in Iraq were gay men.

          So basically we are doing the Iraqi homophobes a favor by torturing them for them. Plus the Americans paid them to kidnap their neighbor. Talk about a win win.

          "Til you're so fucking crazy you can't follow their rules" John Lennon - Working Class Hero

          by Horace Boothroyd III on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:52:30 AM PDT

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        •  Perhaps . . . (0+ / 0-)

          Perhaps we know that there isn't enough real evidence against most of these men to convict them of anything more than "bad judgement", "wrong place, wrong time", or "bad neighbor lied about them."  Some of them might be the wrong guy with a similar-sounding name to the guy we should have captured.

          Whatever the reason, holding men in a prison for a decade or longer without charges, indictments, and/or trials violates everything this nation is SUPPOSED to be about.

          This hunger strike is about "conditions" in the prison.  The next one may be about "trial or release."  The abomination that is this place must be closed down permanently.  It stands now only as a monument to injustice.  American injustice.

          Celtic Merlin
          Carlinist

          Struggle with dignity against injustice. IS there anything more honorable that a person can do?

          by Celtic Merlin on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:54:09 AM PDT

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    •  Betty - what prisoners, what wars? (0+ / 0-)

      I was unaware that there is a good precedent for treating prisoners, of the type of those in Gitmo, in federal court. I'd like to know more.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 06:56:21 AM PDT

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