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  •  first off, the victim isn't a "woman", she's (0+ / 0-)

    a teenager, a very young woman at best. in any civilized society (including the US), she isn't considered an adult, but still a child. so too are the teenager's who raped her, which is why they were tried in juvinile court, rather than as adults. as a psychiatrist, i'm surprised you failed to make that obvious distinction.

    your whole premise is wrong: that the only way to get through to young, narcissistic men, is to provide a "relatable" example for them. why? what makes rape so special, that instead of using the normal methods of training, that we don't do harmful things to other people, regardless of whether or not they're related to us, it must be like a "mother, sister, aunt, etc."?
    rape is assault, period. assault, regardless of who the victim is, is generally considered wrong, and we generally teach our children this.

    if someone is so narcissistic, that the only conceivable way of getting through to them, is to somehow provide examples of people close to them, so they don't commit egregious criminal acts, then i believe their narcissism has gone well beyond the "normal", developmental level. it has fallen into the "mental illness" class, and they need to be removed from society, and provided appropriate treatment, until they are no longer a danger to themselves and others.

    •  "Appropriate treatment" might well include (3+ / 0-)
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      the technique suggested by the diarist. The immaturity that you correctly ascribe to the young perpetrators would seem to call for a limited example from their direct experience that they could then be taught to further generalize to all others. I don't understand your objection to such a method.

      The frog jumped/ into the old pond/ plop! (Basho)

      by Wolf10 on Wed Mar 20, 2013 at 03:01:58 PM PDT

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