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  •  if you had been a little older, you'd have known (9+ / 0-)
     After all, Hussein was pretty inarguably a pretty terrible guy who had done some pretty terrible things to all of his neighbors - Iran, Kuwait, even Israel, lobbing missiles over Jordan at Tel Aviv, and even worse things to his own people.  Even today, I'll say the world is better with him not on it.
    that the US had already spent the past half century propping up brutal unelected dictators all over the world who ruthlessly slaughtered their own people (with our help and support). Including Saddam himself, who was the Americans' BFF during the war with Iran.  In fact we provided Saddam with the satellite intelligence he needed to plan his poison gas attacks.
    •  And, that this was a contrived step in Cheney's (1+ / 0-)
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      plan to get their oil. There are populations in many places of the world the Cheney led sociopaths couldn't care less about as they get slaughtered. If you have resources the super wealthy's all about "a carpet of gold or a carpet of bombs", give us you wealth or die.

      "I freed a thousand slaves, I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves" Harriet Tubman

      by BrianParker14 on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 06:02:05 PM PDT

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    •  Fully known, but simply because we created the (1+ / 0-)
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      problem doesn't absolve us from solving it.  If anything, it makes our solving it even more urgent, albeit perhaps futile (c.f. Afghanistan, where the Cold War turned Afghanistan into one of the most dangerous places on Earth - I don't think it's all that long before we have more attacks on Western civilians with Afghan return addresses again, and it's become plain that no outside power can deal with their problems - they have to first want a permanent resolution that all stakeholders can reach a consensus on, and we've rightly given up on midwifing that.  We may have fueled their ethnic strife through the Cold War, but after 12 years of trying to make room for their internal political solution?  Let'em rot.).

      Anyhow, as said above, we never seriously believed that Bush's goals were to solve those humanitarian problems, only that our brief but errant hopes were that it might be a worthy outcome.  (I also didn't think it was for oil - it was obvious that the oil production would collapse post-invasion, just like it did in '91 - it was pretty clear to me that this was either explicitly revenge for his father or that Bush was so blinded inside of his tiny bubble that maybe he actually thought that Hussein was the biggest threat to the US.  Not sure which of those fundamental errors is worse, but thankfully those years are long gone).

      "The first drawback of anger is that it destroys your inner peace; the second is that it distorts your view of reality. If you come to understand that anger is really unhelpful, you can begin to distance yourself from anger." - The Dalai Lama

      by auron renouille on Sun Mar 24, 2013 at 06:16:35 PM PDT

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